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http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2012 ... n-santa-fe

A company wants to replace the sign with their own logo in Chicago.

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Perhaps BNSF will buy it and put it on top of their HQ
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That sucks.

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MQT3001 wrote:Perhaps BNSF will buy it and put it on top of their HQ
That has to be one of the dumbest statements I've ever seen you make.

You know, you don't have to have $.02 for every post. You can refrain from posting if it adds nothing to the conversation.

BNSF is just that...BNSF. Its not even known as "Burlington Northern Santa Fe" anymore outside of the railfan community. Everything BNSF puts out, lists "BNSF" as its official name. No way they are going to buy a sign that says "Santa Fe" on it, when they don't even pay homage to their historical founding with their current name.

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TrainWatcher wrote:That sucks.
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MQT3001 wrote:Perhaps BNSF will buy it and put it on top of their HQ
-1000000000000000000000000000^100000000000000000000000000.

That is all.
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Sad to see that it might be taken down. One of my favorite Chicago landmarks.

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CSX_CO wrote:
MQT3001 wrote:Perhaps BNSF will buy it and put it on top of their HQ
That has to be one of the dumbest statements I've ever seen you make.

You know, you don't have to have $.02 for every post. You can refrain from posting if it adds nothing to the conversation.

BNSF is just that...BNSF. Its not even known as "Burlington Northern Santa Fe" anymore outside of the railfan community. Everything BNSF puts out, lists "BNSF" as its official name. No way they are going to buy a sign that says "Santa Fe" on it, when they don't even pay homage to their historical founding with their current name.

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Y@,

Being a child of late 1939 I recall a hit song of the forties about the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe. It was a big hit back then.

Just think what the power would look like with the full name applied.

Burlington Northern , Atchison . Topeka and Santa FE Santa Fe would surely be a mouthful.

Somehow, BNSF sounds more logical.
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CSX_CO wrote:You know, you don't have to have $.02 for every post. You can refrain from posting if it adds nothing to the conversation.
Yes, you have to have $0.02 for every post when you're running up your post count. :wink:

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CSX_CO wrote:
MQT3001 wrote:Perhaps BNSF will buy it and put it on top of their HQ

BNSF is just that...BNSF. Its not even known as "Burlington Northern Santa Fe" anymore outside of the railfan community. Everything BNSF puts out, lists "BNSF" as its official name. No way they are going to buy a sign that says "Santa Fe" on it, when they don't even pay homage to their historical founding with their current name.

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How does their name not mention it's origional railroads? They changed their official name to BNSF---It's still the initials. They didn't just pick 4 random letters.

And either way, the ATSF is still part of their heritage, reguardless of what their name is. It is far-fetched, but not il-logical IMO.

Hopefully someone will buy it.
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MQT3001 wrote:How does their name not mention it's origional railroads? They changed their official name to BNSF---It's still the initials. They didn't just pick 4 random letters.
Here we will try it S L O W E R.

B N S F, D O E S N O T S T A N D F O R A N Y T H I N G O T H E R T H E N B N S F. They changed there name to BNSF, not Burlington Northern Santa Fe. Yes BNSF is JUST 4 RANDOM LETTERS any more. You and me may know that it stood for Burlington Northern Santa Fe, but that is not there name, and BNSF is NOT the abreavation for it. It is just BNSF and NOTHING ELSE. When they meet new clients they introdouce themselves as BNSF, nothing else.
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Interesting, I didn't know BNSF doesn't stand for Burlington Northern and Santa Fe anymore.

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Matt is correct, it's now simply "BNSF Railway". There is no more Burlington Northern Santa Fe.
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SD80MAC wrote:Matt is correct, it's now simply "BNSF Railway". There is no more Burlington Northern Santa Fe.
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Somebody out to find a home for it, rather then argue about whats going there instead or why BNSF sucks.

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12Bridge wrote:Somebody out to find a home for it, rather then argue about whats going there instead or why BNSF sucks.
Yes, because it's just that simple. :roll:
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Well as Canadian outsider, and going to give my 0.02 cents, BNSF is there Title name they use, but much like CN, the legal title with the Canadian & US Governments and stock markets (before Berkshire took over) is still Burlington Northern Santa Fe. If you were to read a government accident report, it would use BNSF, UP, NS, CSX, KCS, CP, & CN in its dialogue, but in the bottom, it would go 'CN - Canadian National Railway'. There is a difference between Legal name and Shortforms that are easy to go by, and lots of companies use it to keep speaches, documents down to a shorter item. The Chrysler Factory here in Windsor, is WAP, and that's how they put it in the news around here, but it really Windsor Assembly Plant. It's all part of marketings, which started years ago when the railroads first started.
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Norm wrote:Y@,

Being a child of late 1939 I recall a hit song of the forties about the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe. It was a big hit back then.

Just think what the power would look like with the full name applied.

Burlington Northern , Atchison . Topeka and Santa FE Santa Fe would surely be a mouthful.

Somehow, BNSF sounds more logical.
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telus6429 wrote:Well as Canadian outsider, and going to give my 0.02 cents, BNSF is there Title name they use, but much like CN, the legal title with the Canadian & US Governments and stock markets (before Berkshire took over) is still Burlington Northern Santa Fe. If you were to read a government accident report, it would use BNSF, UP, NS, CSX, KCS, CP, & CN in its dialogue, but in the bottom, it would go 'CN - Canadian National Railway'. There is a difference between Legal name and Shortforms that are easy to go by, and lots of companies use it to keep speaches, documents down to a shorter item. The Chrysler Factory here in Windsor, is WAP, and that's how they put it in the news around here, but it really Windsor Assembly Plant. It's all part of marketings, which started years ago when the railroads first started.
We are debating the name of the RAILROAD not the WHOLE company. The name of the WHOLE company is Burlington Northern Sant Fe, LLC (intrestingly enough, they still to this day use the ticker symbol BNI for Burlington Northern Industries). Of witch ONE of the SUBSIDIARY's is BNSF (yes the four random letters and nothing else) Railway. There is also BNSF Logistics and other parts of the WHOLE. It just so happens that it looks like all of Burlington Northern Santa Fe LLC is in the Ft Worth Headquarters.

It is much like when CSX Transportation started. That was the WHOLE company. Inside that company you had CSXT Railroad, you had CSXI (Intermodal), you had Sea Land, you had the Greenbrier, ect. It just so happens that CSX Transportation was headquartered in Va. and CSXT Railroad was headquartered in Jacksonville, Fl.
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sd70accsxt700 wrote:It is much like when CSX Transportation started. That was the WHOLE company. Inside that company you had CSXT Railroad, you had CSXI (Intermodal), you had Sea Land, you had the Greenbrier, ect. It just so happens that CSX Transportation was headquartered in Va. and CSXT Railroad was headquartered in Jacksonville, Fl.
Actually, I believe the parent company was (and still is) CSX Corporation. The railroad part of it was (and still is) CSX Transportation. CSX Corporation came first, back in 1980 when Chessie System and Seaboard Coast Line Industries merged. The railroads were still separate subsidiaries though, and merged in 1986 to form CSX Transportation (and used the full "CSX Transportation" lettering on equipment for a few months before going with CSX only). The Corp. headquarters were in Richmond VA, but are now in Jax, (CSX Transportation has always been there) Not trying to be picky, but just wanted to make it a little more clear :)

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