FEC purchasing 24 ES44C4'S

[Matt Short Line H]

Did anybody else hear about the FEC purchasing GE ES44C4 locomotive. There are rumors that they will retire the SD70M-2's instead of the SD40-2's because they are already being refurbished and painted.

[AARR]

If true this is another all EMD railroad that is switching to GE. I was hoping that Caterpillar would be able to turn things around but GE's dominance continues.

[railohio]

If true

There's an FEC/GE press release out on it.

[GLC 392]

Well considering fortress just bought MMA, I see FEC power going up there and with the increase of container traffic coming soon they will need the power.

[Schteinkuh]

How old are those SD70's?

[JStryker722]

Trains Newswire confirmed the 24 GE ES44C4s 2 days ago. The #101-107 SD70M-2s were built in 2007 so I don't see them retiring 6 year old wide cabs,so those will probably stay with the FEC. If anything,I see them holding onto a few rebuilt SD40-2s and GP40s for yard and local service,with the balance of the SD/GP40s being sent to Maine for Fortress's new railroad.

[Saturnalia]

Trains Newswire confirmed the 24 GE ES44C4s 2 days ago. The #101-107 SD70M-2s were built in 2007 so I don't see them retiring 6 year old wide cabs,so those will probably stay with the FEC. If anything,I see them holding onto a few rebuilt SD40-2s and GP40s for yard and local service,with the balance of the SD/GP40s being sent to Maine for Fortress's new railroad.

Whatever the GEVOs replace will more than likely be sent to MMA. It does not matter how old they are, because at the end of the day, they're just a part of an asset move in that case.

[JStryker722]

Trains Newswire confirmed the 24 GE ES44C4s 2 days ago. The #101-107 SD70M-2s were built in 2007 so I don't see them retiring 6 year old wide cabs,so those will probably stay with the FEC. If anything,I see them holding onto a few rebuilt SD40-2s and GP40s for yard and local service,with the balance of the SD/GP40s being sent to Maine for Fortress's new railroad.

Whatever the GEVOs replace will more than likely be sent to MMA. It does not matter how old they are, because at the end of the day, they're just a part of an asset move in that case.

No one in their right mind would give their best power to another railroad just like that.

[Saturnalia]

Trains Newswire confirmed the 24 GE ES44C4s 2 days ago. The #101-107 SD70M-2s were built in 2007 so I don't see them retiring 6 year old wide cabs,so those will probably stay with the FEC. If anything,I see them holding onto a few rebuilt SD40-2s and GP40s for yard and local service,with the balance of the SD/GP40s being sent to Maine for Fortress's new railroad.

Whatever the GEVOs replace will more than likely be sent to MMA. It does not matter how old they are, because at the end of the day, they're just a part of an asset move in that case.

No one in their right mind would give their best power to another railroad just like that.

If the exchange happens, it is Fortress being efficient with their assets. The MMA needs more modern power, and the ES44C4s fit the FEC's current and anticipated traffic. The MMA gets more modern power.

It is all speculation...

[JStryker722]

No one in their right mind would give their best power to another railroad just like that.

If the exchange happens, it is Fortress being efficient with their assets. The MMA needs more modern power, and the ES44C4s fit the FEC's current and anticipated traffic. The MMA gets more modern power.

It is all speculation...[/quote][/quote]
I just don't see FEC losing their SD70M-2s just like that when the rebuilt SD40-2s would be more appropriate for start up before truly having a sense on the ground the traffic requirements. Look at what happened to GDLK at start-up: Watco sent an abundance of motive power only to find it not needed and sent the extras elsewhere. Then again,better have and not need than need and not have.

[CSX_CO]

I just don't see FEC losing their SD70M-2s just like that when the rebuilt SD40-2s would be more appropriate for start up before truly having a sense on the ground the traffic requirements. Look at what happened to GDLK at start-up: Watco sent an abundance of motive power only to find it not needed and sent the extras elsewhere. Then again,better have and not need than need and not have.

Both MMA and FEC are pretty well established properties. MMA has said it won't move crude by rail anymore, so you can nix that traffic base. It isn't like they're starting from scratch.

I'm sure someone has a plan, otherwise they wouldn't be putting out that much money in the first place. Its only speculation amongst the arm chair railroaders...

Practice Safe CSX

[JStryker722]

I just don't see FEC losing their SD70M-2s just like that when the rebuilt SD40-2s would be more appropriate for start up before truly having a sense on the ground the traffic requirements. Look at what happened to GDLK at start-up: Watco sent an abundance of motive power only to find it not needed and sent the extras elsewhere. Then again,better have and not need than need and not have.

Both MMA and FEC are pretty well established properties. MMA has said it won't move crude by rail anymore, so you can nix that traffic base. It isn't like they're starting from scratch.

I'm sure someone has a plan, otherwise they wouldn't be putting out that much money in the first place. Its only speculation amongst the arm chair railroaders...

Practice Safe CSX

Pretty much lol

[GLC 392]

I would imagine the sd's and gp's from FEC will replace the MMA's old GE's.

[CSX_CO]

I would imagine the sd's and gp's from FEC will replace the MMA's old GE's.

Depending on the lease terms, not entirely out of the realm of possibilities the SD70's go back to the leaser.

Practice Safe CSX

[JStryker722]

I would imagine the sd's and gp's from FEC will replace the MMA's old GE's.

Depending on the lease terms, not entirely out of the realm of possibilities the SD70's go back to the leaser.

Practice Safe CSX

If I'm not mistaken, #101-107 SD70M-2s were bought outright with # 140-143? being CITX leasers.

[railohio]

I expect there to be a Trains News Wire update on this later today.

[Matt Short Line H]

The #101-107 SD70M-2s were built in 2007 so I don't see them retiring 6 year old wide cabs,so those will probably stay with the FEC. If anything,I see them holding onto a few rebuilt SD40-2s and GP40s for yard and local service,with the balance of the SD/GP40s being sent to Maine for Fortress's new railroad.[/quote]

Trains Newswire confirmed the 24 GE ES44C4s 2 days ago. The #101-107 SD70M-2s were built in 2007 so I don't see them retiring 6 year old wide cabs,so those will probably stay with the FEC. If anything,I see them holding onto a few rebuilt SD40-2s and GP40s for yard and local service,with the balance of the SD/GP40s being sent to Maine for Fortress's new railroad.

Trains Newswire confirmed the 24 GE ES44C4s 2 days ago. The #101-107 SD70M-2s were built in 2007 so I don't see them retiring 6 year old wide cabs,so those will probably stay with the FEC. If anything,I see them holding onto a few rebuilt SD40-2s and GP40s for yard and local service,with the balance of the SD/GP40s being sent to Maine for Fortress's new railroad.[/quote][/quote][/quote]


All the SD70M-2 are going back to the leasing company CITX after the first ES44C4's get to the FEC property in March.

[JStryker722]

In that case,bye bye EMD on FEC mostly lol

[railohio]

A little later than I'd hoped, but here's the details:

http://trn.trains.com/Railroad%20News/N ... order.aspx

(For Trains subscribers.)

[Schteinkuh]

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