CP to Buy KCS
Posted: Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:34 am
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There is also the issue of Security and Exchange Commission disclosure requirements. That should happen before such a filing occurs.Saturnalia wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:45 amThat part was false. Supposedly a filing has been made but won’t be opened by the STB until tomorrow because they work bankers hours only!
They go all the way to the bottom of Mexico. It’s not like the CN-IC at all.Saturnalia wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 11:47 amAlright, time to stir the pot. CP-KCS is like CN-IC. The last missing piece? Detroit to ChicagoLand. There is only one legitimate option: buy the Pere Marquette.
However, with the direct Mexican access, I bet the price from CSX just went up a lot.
Even if they get the PM it still requires trackage rights Porter to Chicago. Plus there is more freight. They should have tried for the Michigan Line when Conrail sold the west end to Amtrak in the early to mid 80’s. Not much online business and only Amtrak to work around and it was double track at that time.Doktor No wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:20 pmhttps://www.railwayage.com/freight/clas ... aign=23857
Look at the map of the unified CPKC. What is missing? What am I missing? The finish to the route around The Great Lakes.
I know this is a dead horse but beat it around a bit. He won't complain much.
Who else would/could merge? Maybe CN/NS or CN/CSX but I can't think of anything else that makes a ton of sense.
Amtrak purchased the west end of the Michigan Line in 1976 on Conrail day...Conrail didn’t even want it, even back then there was no reason for the through route or much in the way of local customers.ns8401 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:18 pmEven if they get the PM it still requires trackage rights Porter to Chicago. Plus there is more freight. They should have tried for the Michigan Line when Conrail sold the west end to Amtrak in the early to mid 80’s. Not much online business and only Amtrak to work around and it was double track at that time.Doktor No wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:20 pmhttps://www.railwayage.com/freight/clas ... aign=23857
Look at the map of the unified CPKC. What is missing? What am I missing? The finish to the route around The Great Lakes.
I know this is a dead horse but beat it around a bit. He won't complain much.
Oops.. that’s right, never mind then. Unless NS buys it you can kiss the connection at Butler goodbye in that case. It’s CP owned track. Those hotshot intermodal trains would get bottled up for a minute once they hit Plymouth I suspect. Adding a bunch of traffic into an already semi-busy area is gonna cause some growing pains.Saturnalia wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 7:14 pmAmtrak purchased the west end of the Michigan Line in 1976 on Conrail day...Conrail didn’t even want it, even back then there was no reason for the through route or much in the way of local customers.ns8401 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:18 pmEven if they get the PM it still requires trackage rights Porter to Chicago. Plus there is more freight. They should have tried for the Michigan Line when Conrail sold the west end to Amtrak in the early to mid 80’s. Not much online business and only Amtrak to work around and it was double track at that time.Doktor No wrote: ↑Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:20 pmhttps://www.railwayage.com/freight/clas ... aign=23857
Look at the map of the unified CPKC. What is missing? What am I missing? The finish to the route around The Great Lakes.
I know this is a dead horse but beat it around a bit. He won't complain much.
MDOT would never let that much tonnage hit the AML without significant compensation for the destruction that tonnage would do to their racetrack.
PM it is, still trackage rights IHB to Porter and Plymouth to the Tunnel but at least it’s all double track on those ends. I doubt NS would treat future hotshot Mexico-to-Ontario intermodals with the same tender love and care as CP could do themselves.