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Q326-19 is currently around Vine. Sounds like CSXT 4043 leading.

Q39219 cleared Plymouth @ 10:30
Q23119 cleared Plymouth @ 11:33

Doktor No wrote:Q33519. 8000 hp, 10,000 tons. Double to South Lyon from Beck early this AM. What part of this tonnage do they NOT understand? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Nothing ever changes....

Got it out of Stanley didn't it?

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Doktor No wrote:Q33519. 8000 hp, 10,000 tons. Double to South Lyon from Beck early this AM. What part of this tonnage do they NOT understand? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Nothing ever changes....

A 335 cut is between Lamar and Grandville as of last evening...I think it is the same one you guys have been talking about from last week

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Doktor No wrote:Q33519. 8000 hp, 10,000 tons. Double to South Lyon from Beck early this AM. What part of this tonnage do they NOT understand? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Nothing ever changes....

Got it out of Stanley didn't it?

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Sounds like piss poor planning to me.

SD80MAC wrote: Sounds like piss poor planning to me.

Sounds like someone else's problem to me.

GRP is small potatoes compared to larger terminals. You don't keep those larger terminals fluid, you're going to have a lot more problems backing up elsewhere. So, using 8000 hp to get that train out of Stanley to avoid that terminal going under sounds like perfect planning to me. Northern end of the system is finally working through the back log of traffic from the last two months. We're back on plan at Avon after two weeks of slugging through traffic. Last thing you want when you're finally starting to return to normal is having to sit on additional freight. So, you get those cars out of Stanley, and just have a plan to get them to GRP as power and time permits.

Oh, and looking at the tonnage ratings, that train is only 250 tons over for the power applied.

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Doktor No wrote:Q33519. 8000 hp, 10,000 tons. Double to South Lyon from Beck early this AM. What part of this tonnage do they NOT understand? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Nothing ever changes....

Who cares??? We don't have any place to put it.

Q335 just got EC1 from Ensel to Lake Odessa.

GRP is more important then you think and is making Jacksonville go what in the world is going on up there and it is mainly because of these 'Other terminals' now. Doesn't help when all the other terminals decide to send other traffic to GR that has no reason to be there so it plugs up everything. They also decide to not send enough HP to power the monster trains they want out of their yards, as long as it leaves the yard who cares. Well now you have road trains, locals and yard jobs that cant move which results in other railroads not interchanging and it is quickly creating a crap storm that rolling down hill at a rapid rate.

Something went going through St Joseph about 5 mins ago

justin_gram wrote:Something went going through St Joseph about 5 mins ago

Now another train is going through. This is about 5 mins later

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Doktor No wrote:Q33519. 8000 hp, 10,000 tons. Double to South Lyon from Beck early this AM. What part of this tonnage do they NOT understand? Stupid, stupid, stupid. Nothing ever changes....

Got it out of Stanley didn't it?

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Wow, Now this is a true yardmaster that does not think beyond his shift.

16:47 EST: D700 is between Hudsonville and Grandville, going to hold out in Grandville to be sure the YM can take them with #2 still blocked. Had bad signals at 112th and Zeeland.

Something went east (at least that's what it sounded like from Bailey's Grove) out of GR around 1830. Sounded like the drone of a 70MAC horn.

Looks like D71619 in East yard @ 19:40 had mother and slug for power

D73719 is at Atwood Junction near Flint, q32119 at Atwood wye, q32219 hasn't departed Toledo, q15019 finally departing toledo, n95418 at pickle road toledo so that's northbound too towards Flint. q27218 at WE Yard in Toledo, d71719 at Eckles Road in Plymouth.

J T wrote:Something went east (at least that's what it sounded like from Bailey's Grove) out of GR around 1830. Sounded like the drone of a 70MAC horn.

My guess is you heard Q335, who had two UP SD70Ms for power

Before that, Y106 returned with 5 to Wyoming. A Yard job with a BNSF Toaster went west and grabbed the last of the 335 cut that was west of Ivanrest, then after they cleared Lamar, the Q335 pulled through the Service track (main plugged with cars), cleared the plant at Lamar then cut Ivanrest, and tied down on Main 2.

Y297 went up the West Side a few minutes ago, at Fuller currently with a box and a bunch of gons

Doktor No wrote:I could reply to c0-cond but as he DOES NOT KNOW OF WHAT HE SPEAKS along this line I'll leave it at "you are totally ignorant of whats happened up here, from Chicago to Willard thru STanley and all the rest. Indy doesn't have a clue what winter is and neither do you."
Again, clueless.

No, we just handle more cars in a DAY then you guys process in a week up there. Probably more trains come and go in a day from here then do GR in a week too. Oh and last I knew we were the ones who did it with the lowest per car cost for classification. We had a hard winter down here. You know what? We slugged through it. We didn't female dog about 'stupid decisions' we just kept plugging away. Thankfully most of our crews down here in the yard WANT to do a good job, and WANT to put up big numbers.

So, it is a real head scratcther to wonder why it is GR crews *always* manage to stall even when they have plenty of power for their trains? Again Q335-19 was only 200 tons over tonnage for the power. That is 2 loaded cars...and maybe 4 to 5 empty cars. Letsee...lower mileage jobs...OT jobs...and then keep the boards turning with all the recrews...so where is the incentive to make it on one crew anyway?

95duck wrote: Wow, Now this is a true yardmaster that does not think beyond his shift.

Quite the contrary. I would bet that more freight was moved out of Stanley because of the decision to run that Q335-19 with two motors, and save the additional power for something else. Verses sacrifice more power because one terminals crews seemingly have such a hard time pulling hills. Letsee...3 motors for 10,000 tons, or 2 motors for that same 10,300 tons (and it was only 250 tons over the tonnage rating for the power), and use that 3rd motor to move another 8,000 tons out of Stanley towards Willard/Garrett/Chicago by itself. Not a tough decision from a terminal managers or power managers standpoint.

I believe it was George Burns who said "It is unfortunate that everyone who knows how to run a business and the country is employed as a barber or cab driver." Same can be said of the railroad, its unfortunate everyone who knows how to run the railroad better is stuck in the yard office...

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So, Dok, on more friendly note- any idea if those GLC tie loads and tanks for Kalkaska made it to the GLC yet? Hoping to catch them hauling to Cadillac...

TC Man wrote:So, Dok, on more friendly note- any idea if those GLC tie loads and tanks for Kalkaska made it to the GLC yet? Hoping to catch them hauling to Cadillac...

There was a half-dozen car string on the cut from 335 several days ago that had ties in hoppers...if those are it, they are no closer to the GLC than Wyoming. They would still have to make Lansing, and then try, try, try to make AnnPere, but we all know how that goes...