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326-11 BY EAST WAVERLY 632AM BNSF 4988 LD AND 6 AXLE KCS TRAIL WITH 73 CARS 4078'
19.1 OS'D AT 641AM

Q23111 cleared Plymouth @ 8:25
Q33511 cleared Plymouth @ 8:35

Eastbound in the hole at lake o.

WAS at the EE Lake O set green for a westbound.

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no change as of 1140

Anyone know when Q321 will leave McGrew Yard in Flint?

14:25 EDT LARGE GROUP OF MOW EQUIPMENT SITTING ON MAIN BETWEEN CG5.0 AND CG6.0. HOPING TO GET VIDEO AND PICS IF T-STORM LET'S UP.

q33411 hasn't left grand rapids
q33511 arrived grand rapids 1pm
q32711 22:00 grand rapids departure
q24111 eureka road cc96
q21611 walbridge
d70711 grand ledge 14:40
d70811 howell
d70011 arrived grand rapids 4:15pm
q32210 erie cc125
q32111 hasn;t left flint
q32211 hasn't left toledo
q27210 walbridge
q13219 west greenup IL
q39211 arrived detroit 3pm
q15111 pemberville OH
q15011 alexis OH
q28711 hasn't left toledo
q28910 millard ave toledo

21:02 EDT Q33411 BNSF 4988, KCS UNIT EB PLASTER CREEK.

22:23 EDT P37011 EB GRANDVILLE. AMTK 82,3SL, AMTK 517 TRAILING.

trnwatcher wrote:22:23 EDT P37011 EB GRANDVILLE. AMTK 82,3SL, AMTK 517 TRAILING.

Interesting that they have two units capable of powering the train running in tandom...

23:25 EDT Q32711 WB GRANDVILLE. UP7391 AND 97 CARS. WILL MEET D802 AT HOLLAND OR WELLS. NO HOLLAND SET OFF FOR 327.

Forgot to post last night, but saw X116 go south through Plymouth around 8:30pm. Q322, Q277, D716 and likely something else went by too around 7-9pm.

MQT3001 wrote:

trnwatcher wrote:22:23 EDT P37011 EB GRANDVILLE. AMTK 82,3SL, AMTK 517 TRAILING.

Interesting that they have two units capable of powering the train running in tandom...

And?

amtrak1007 wrote:

MQT3001 wrote:

trnwatcher wrote:22:23 EDT P37011 EB GRANDVILLE. AMTK 82,3SL, AMTK 517 TRAILING.

Interesting that they have two units capable of powering the train running in tandom...

And?

I don't see how two units at the opposite end of the train is "in tandem" either. Tandem usually means coupled together either pulling or pushing in unison. It's not at all unusual for a push-pull lash up on a midwest service train even if it's not typical on the 370/371.

ns8401 wrote:

amtrak1007 wrote:

MQT3001 wrote: Interesting that they have two units capable of powering the train running in tandom...

And?

I don't see how two units at the opposite end of the train is "in tandem" either. Tandem usually means coupled together either pulling or pushing in unison. It's not at all unusual for a push-pull lash up on a midwest service train even if it's not typical on the 370/371.

If one looks at the Amtrak national consist book, it states that 370/371 are to have either 2 engines or one engine and an NPCU... Whenever chicago doesn't have enough NCPU, 370/371 will get 2 units. I for one am excited its a 500 series unit, just like the old days.

amtrak1007 wrote: If one looks at the Amtrak national consist book, it states that 370/371 are to have either 2 engines or one engine and an NPCU... Whenever chicago doesn't have enough NCPU, 370/371 will get 2 units. I for one am excited its a 500 series unit, just like the old days.

Sez the book, but over the last several years it has been a P42 + cars, or P42 + cars + Cabbage.

The little fella is probably too young to remember, but the PM used to run with 2 engines all the time years ago when they would throw on a unit in Chicago that had just been worked on to test it out.

SD80MAC wrote:The little fella is probably too young to remember, but the PM used to run with 2 engines all the time years ago when they would throw on a unit in Chicago that had just been worked on to test it out.

It happened occasionally, not all the time. It was easy to detect because the engines would be coupled elephant style.

MQT3001 wrote:

amtrak1007 wrote: If one looks at the Amtrak national consist book, it states that 370/371 are to have either 2 engines or one engine and an NPCU... Whenever chicago doesn't have enough NCPU, 370/371 will get 2 units. I for one am excited its a 500 series unit, just like the old days.

Sez the book, but over the last several years it has been a P42 + cars, or P42 + cars + Cabbage.

P42 + Cars + Cabbage (NPCU) Alex, so that would be the same as a P42 on each end in the consist book. When it has only one engine I cannot speak to or explain.

ns8401 wrote:

MQT3001 wrote:

amtrak1007 wrote: If one looks at the Amtrak national consist book, it states that 370/371 are to have either 2 engines or one engine and an NPCU... Whenever chicago doesn't have enough NCPU, 370/371 will get 2 units. I for one am excited its a 500 series unit, just like the old days.

Sez the book, but over the last several years it has been a P42 + cars, or P42 + cars + Cabbage.

P42 + Cars + Cabbage (NPCU) Alex, so that would be the same as a P42 on each end in the consist book. When it has only one engine I cannot speak to or explain.

All that I know is two working locomotives on the PM over the last 3 years has been very rare. Always been just one P42/500 with cars, sometimes with cabbage, some times without. That is why I pointed it out as abnormal...that is all

Right but that isn't what we are saying and it isn't exactly what the book says. It is normal for two units or one unit and one cabbage to be on the train. 1 engine and cars is the abnormal event. You are writing as though the book says 2 engines are the only normal thing. It is normal for two units or 1 unit and one cabbage. Not for 1 unit and that's all.