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IMO watching an endless parade of CSX and NS trains gets old in an hour.Big Frank wrote:Who in the hell would pay to watch a cam feed of fostoria or any train location for that fact seriously
It get old in an hour when Im standing track side let alone at home where i could do anything I want beside bore myself to deathAARR wrote:IMO watching an endless parade of CSX and NS trains gets old in an hour.Big Frank wrote:Who in the hell would pay to watch a cam feed of fostoria or any train location for that fact seriously
I use to pay $10.00/mo in a do nothing HO club-unless you like to talk about everything except trains or modeling.You couldn't run trains because they kept tearing things out..Mark Rummel wrote:Wow, $10 per month (or $100 a year) is pretty steep, I think.
I used to enjoy watching the Fostoria cam, and I would probably be willing to pay maybe $20 or $25 a year, but not $10 a month.
Someone has to pay for it. You can always set up your own cam feed and stream it for free to all of us. It's amazing how when someone does something, everyone expects it all to be free. Don't pay then. It's simple. Btw, this website isn't free either, yet SOMEONE has to pay for it.Big Frank wrote:Who in the hell would pay to watch a cam feed of fostoria or any train location for that fact seriously
that makes sense brakie i never thought about that some thing to do at your work bench coolBrakie wrote:I don't know I enjoy it a lot even more so when its cold with 5 or more inches of snow on the ground with a stiff North wind..Gives me something to watch while I'm modeling.
Now paying to be a member of a railroad,model railroad forum or a do nothing model railroad club..I don't think so.
I can't speak for alot of others, but I have been in conversations with many people on this board about this. I know I would have been willing to donate to help support this wonderful idea. I even was al set to make donations as soon as it was to be set up. But, I had taken offense to the "admins" on the chat portion of the website shortly after it was launched. I never returned after that. I didn't do anything wrong or was warned on anything. But, I seen way too much "power hungry" admining. From conversations, several others also share this feeling. Once you sour someone on your service, it almost next to impossible to win them back, especially in this instant gratification era we are living in. The moth fee is slightly high in my opinion. Instead of getting 50 people paying $10 a month, I would rather have 200 people paying $5. As with any service, you shouldn't expect to make ends meet right out of the gates. If you price to do so, you will not make it long, that is basic business practice.bdconrail29 wrote:Someone has to pay for it. You can always set up your own cam feed and stream it for free to all of us. It's amazing how when someone does something, everyone expects it all to be free. Don't pay then. It's simple. Btw, this website isn't free either, yet SOMEONE has to pay for it.
I completely agree, AC60CW. The issue here is much more than "Am I willing to pay to watch trains on my computer?" I would have been more than willing to donate to the cam site back when it was free, but the behavior by most of the admins on there compelled me not to. Now am I claiming that I know how to run a website better than them? No. But since it's my money that may be supporting means that I don't agree with I am going to spend my money otherwise.AC60CW wrote:I can't speak for alot of others, but I have been in conversations with many people on this board about this. I know I would have been willing to donate to help support this wonderful idea. I even was al set to make donations as soon as it was to be set up. But, I had taken offense to the "admins" on the chat portion of the website shortly after it was launched. I never returned after that. I didn't do anything wrong or was warned on anything. But, I seen way too much "power hungry" admining. From conversations, several others also share this feeling. Once you sour someone on your service, it almost next to impossible to win them back, especially in this instant gratification era we are living in. The moth fee is slightly high in my opinion. Instead of getting 50 people paying $10 a month, I would rather have 200 people paying $5. As with any service, you shouldn't expect to make ends meet right out of the gates. If you price to do so, you will not make it long, that is basic business practice.
.Allow me to add another reason.Big Frank wrote:that makes sense brakie i never thought about that some thing to do at your work bench coolBrakie wrote:I don't know I enjoy it a lot even more so when its cold with 5 or more inches of snow on the ground with a stiff North wind..Gives me something to watch while I'm modeling.
Now paying to be a member of a railroad,model railroad forum or a do nothing model railroad club..I don't think so.
I don't know what the problem was and don't care since its none of my business however,I don't like a lot of drama or senseless arguing..Goodness knows I see a lot of that on some model railroad forums and would cancel my membership if that site became a hotbox for arguing and drama.cbehr91 wrote:I completely agree, AC60CW. The issue here is much more than "Am I willing to pay to watch trains on my computer?" I would have been more than willing to donate to the cam site back when it was free, but the behavior by most of the admins on there compelled me not to. Now am I claiming that I know how to run a website better than them? No. But since it's my money that may be supporting means that I don't agree with I am going to spend my money otherwise.AC60CW wrote:I can't speak for alot of others, but I have been in conversations with many people on this board about this. I know I would have been willing to donate to help support this wonderful idea. I even was al set to make donations as soon as it was to be set up. But, I had taken offense to the "admins" on the chat portion of the website shortly after it was launched. I never returned after that. I didn't do anything wrong or was warned on anything. But, I seen way too much "power hungry" admining. From conversations, several others also share this feeling. Once you sour someone on your service, it almost next to impossible to win them back, especially in this instant gratification era we are living in. The moth fee is slightly high in my opinion. Instead of getting 50 people paying $10 a month, I would rather have 200 people paying $5. As with any service, you shouldn't expect to make ends meet right out of the gates. If you price to do so, you will not make it long, that is basic business practice.
Ditto!cbehr91 wrote:On top of that, our own Zackmaster briefly was a moderator on there and when he was online he basically let the group self-moderate itself. When he didn't meet his quota for banning people for stupid crap he had his admin rights stripped and was told by the other admins that he didn't know how to run a message board, in public, in full view of everybody who was signed into the cam site at that time.
It was the general "internet bully" attitude of most of the admins on there that made me decide not to help them out and donate, something I'll gladly do for this site.
If I heard this from someone else I would not believe it. I may be wrong but it sounds like its run by a bunch of young kids.cbehr91 wrote:On top of that, our own Zackmaster briefly was a moderator on there and when he was online he basically let the group self-moderate itself. When he didn't meet his quota for banning people for stupid crap he had his admin rights stripped and was told by the other admins that he didn't know how to run a message board, in public, in full view of everybody who was signed into the cam site at that time.