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csxt4617 · Unread post by **csxt4617** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 11:45 pm

Railnut wrote:The middleton branch can take 6-axle power..as long as it isn't to heavy it'self (SD38's would work..and SD40's with their balast weight reduced). 6 axle units spread their weight out better than 4 axle units..thus is why the NAR got their 4 SD38-'s (now on CN)..light rail.
Some roads use 6 axle trucks..but have the wheel araingment set up as A-1-A, A-1-A..center truck of each axle is not powered (see EMD E units, GMDD GMD-1's, and EMD SDL39's).

Not to be picky, but I'm pretty sure the SDL39's had C trucks, not A-1-A...they just used the export version of the truck, which was lighter.

OwlCaboose2853 · Sat Mar 24, 2007 9:19 am

Diesel Locomotive Wheel Arrangements
http://www.sdrm.org/roster/diesel/wheels.html

AAR wheel arrangement
http://en.allexperts.com/e/a/aa/aar_whe ... gement.htm

Railnut · Unread post by **Railnut** » Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:15 am

You are corect sir..they were not A-1-A's..they were modified flexcoils (err..export version)..I misread some info..they still only weigh 250,000 lbs! Perfect for the GLC.
Oh..thanks for fixing this picure links Olw! Dave C

OwlCaboose2853 · Sat Mar 24, 2007 11:29 am

GLC 392 wrote:I dont know of wait restrictions except maybe the engine house tracks, and the Middleton line definitely can NOT take the weight of the engines. But one of the restriction on the line are some of the tight curves around Alma, and other places.

Three axle radial truck can running tight curve tracks than three axles conventional rigid truck cannot conform to curves. Their flanges bite into the gauge face of the rail, wearing metal from both surfaces. see link:
http://www.emdiesels.com/lms/en/locomot ... /index.htm

TrainNut85 · Unread post by **TrainNut85** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:38 am

Well the jokes on me, the engineer that told me this pulled a fast one on me

, plus tonite 385 and 390 had some trouble of their own. 385 had a not so good sound to it and 390 was spewing oil all over the place. Time for their turns at the shops.

GLC 392 · Unread post by **GLC 392** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:02 am

sounds like a turbo is going.

jukeman · Unread post by **jukeman** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 7:05 am

[quote="TrainNut85"]Well the jokes on me, the engineer that told me this pulled a fast one on me :roll:,

About the 38s?

TrainNut85 · Unread post by **TrainNut85** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 10:52 am

No, about the 35s being gone. They bought the 38-2s, and they are on their way up.

GLC 392 · Unread post by **GLC 392** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:33 am

they need the power to badly to get rid of them, and with the new commuter service starting the definitly need new power.

SD80MAC · Unread post by **SD80MAC** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:17 pm

GLC 392 wrote:they need the power to badly to get rid of them, and with the new commuter service starting the definitly need new power.

They couldn't use the GP35s or the 38-2s in commuter service anyway. The power they do get will have to be HEP equipped. Unless they ran the trains with a seperate HEP car, which I'd doubt.

Raildudes dad · Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:43 pm

From usually reliable sources: Look for 2 - 38's (leased units - not bought) for freight service and some leased units from out east with HEP for transit. 38's are supposed to be a done deal, transit still negotiating

OwlCaboose2853 · Tue Mar 27, 2007 1:22 pm

GLC commuters will have to reduce restrict speeds at Lakeland (Hamburg Twp) because these has between 95 degree to 100 degree curve (see map http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q ... 4&t=h&om=1). I believe that they will stop at Lakeland arrive and depart in parking lots (former GTW MAL from Pontiac to Jackson) to Whitmore Lake, E. N. Territorial Rd, Barton Dr-Plymouth Rd in Ann Arbor.

GLC 392 · Unread post by **GLC 392** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:07 pm

what is a hep car? if it is a cab car they have one sitting in Owosso right now.

SD40-2 · Unread post by **SD40-2** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:32 pm

Head
End
Power

GLC 392 · Unread post by **GLC 392** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:46 pm

ok thanks they have that already they have a cab car and i belive a couple more coming.

Unread post by **cnw8835** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:54 pm

Steven, HEP does not equal a cab car. Head End Power is what powers all of the electrical systems on a passenger train. Virtually every locomotive used in passenger service in North America is equiped with an auxillary generator that provides the electrical power.
The only passenger service I can think of that uses a locomotive that is not equipped with HEP are the trains on the Algoma Central. They use a generator built into one of the lead baggage cars.

GLC 392 · Unread post by **GLC 392** » Tue Mar 27, 2007 3:59 pm

oh ok i get it now.

TrainNut85 · Unread post by **TrainNut85** » Wed Mar 28, 2007 9:52 am

I happen to notice something on the map which Owl posted a link to. Is that old roadbed running next to the tracks then next to M-36? It looks like it use to be an old industrial spur.

OwlCaboose2853 · Wed Mar 28, 2007 11:17 am

Terra map: Lakeland http://www.terraserver.microsoft.com/im ... nd%7cMI%7c
RRHX: Lakeland http://www.michiganrailroads.com/RRHX/S ... landMI.htm
RRHX: Hamburg http://www.michiganrailroads.com/RRHX/S ... burgMI.htm

TrainNut85
Can you show us where you find which point at old industrial spur?

TrainNut85 · Unread post by **TrainNut85** » Thu Mar 29, 2007 12:01 pm

Actually from researching the map, its the old GTW M.A.L. line, it still looks pretty visible. If you look at it closely it looks like a very thin line, with a bridge still in place, then it ends at Whitmore Lake road, I can't find the rest from that point, unless the vegetation grew over the line, making it invisible. But it looks pretty visible heading west, but finding it east of Whitmore Lake road, I couldn't.

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