CSX GRE Train Location Update 11-15-07

[Raildudes dad]

All quiet at the GRE. Must be they went deer hunting like the TSBY Superliners are here - 4 of them on the train this morning.

[~Z~]

Q32615 - WAVERLY MI CG 24 11-15-2007 07:46
Q32715 - PORTER IN CG 136 11-15-2007 07:32
Q33415 - SOUTH LYON MI CH 36 11-15-2007 07:40
Q33515 - BECK ROAD MI CH 28 11-15-2007 06:08
CP X50014 - hasn't left Chicago yet
N90314 - WEST OLIVE MI CGC 33 11-15-2007 07:32
N90315 - at Chicago
N91014 - 75TH STREET TCS IL DC 24 11-15-2007 05:15
N90714 - in Kentucky, bound for GR.
Amtrak P37115 - GRAND RAPIDS MI CG 1 11-15-2007 07:47
E94512 - CICERO IL DAL 32 11-15-2007 06:35
E94914, E94915 - at West Olive
D80115, D80215 - not moving yet
N95615 - at Chicago
D00814 - NEW BUFFALO MI CG 115 11-14-2007 17:26
a D00815 is called for today.

[Tlout]

Sounds like D801 is on the move - or trying -calling Dispatch and Y121 - they want to take light power to Waverly, then to Wells.

When and why does Amtrak switch to Superliners?

[SteveHiuzenga]

Amtrak switches about this time of year due to weather. The Superliners can stand up to cold much better without freezing issues.

I always thought they did it to make me happy when I was out photographing trains, but then that was ruined when I read the real reson.

[~Z~]

Q32615 - SUNNYSIDE PLEASNT S MI CGT 0 11-15-2007 11:52
Q32715 - set to leave Detroit at 2pm
Q33415 - PICKLE ROAD OH CTT 52 11-15-2007 12:32
Q33515 - SEYMOUR MI CH 148 11-15-2007 12:42
CP X50014 - MICHIGAN CITY IN BIG 65 11-15-2007 12:36
D80115 - WAVERLY MI CG 24 11-15-2007 11:07
D80215 - GRAND RAPIDS MI CG 1 11-15-2007 10:00
N90315 - at Chicago
N91014 - GRAND JCT MI CG 54 11-15-2007 12:11
N95615 - at Chicago
a D00815 is called for today, not moving yet.
K90514 - at Toledo(Toledo to GR Lime train)

awesome statement steve about Amtrak... superliners definately do look better..look good in the snow..now, just get rid of the genesis engines, add some freight cars, and we'll be all set.

[SteveHiuzenga]

Zack....I agree about the snow. I always thought Superliners looked best when they were kicking up a cloud of snow which obscurred the end of the train.

[Tlout]

D801 just went by Riley Street heading south to Waverly. 1:05 PM.

[~Z~]

D801 just went by Riley Street heading south to Waverly. 1:05 PM.

while out on the lunch break from 1-2pm, heard D801 going west through town out towards Wells...they had no EOT on board, so i dunno what they are going to do at Wells... maybe the cars they are getting already have one?
Y121 spent from noon until 1:30 at Zeeland...watched them go across Waverly as I was near 16th St (thank you rear view mirror)
Wonder if Y121 is going to do their normal Thursday run to Hamilton.

[amtrak1007]

When and why does Amtrak switch to Superliners?

The Horizons HEP connections are to close to the ground, which freeze, and short out. The cars were designed with a different HEP connection scheme in mind, they have 4 sets of Male connections where the typical car has 2 sets per end. The set which is normally used is about 2' above the rail, the "spare" male connector is about 6" higher and 1' closer to the center of the car. Also the vestibule doors have problems dealing with the snow and ice. The pneumatic doors will freeze closed, and the sliding exit doors will do the same, although they are not pneumatic in anyway... Consequently, the horizons, go for a vacation on the west coast until spring returns.

[J T]

Zack....I agree about the snow. I always thought Superliners looked best when they were kicking up a cloud of snow which obscurred the end of the train.

Yes they do.

[~Z~]

Q32615 - DETROIT MI CH 1 11-15-2007 22:15
Q32715 - GRAND RAPIDS MI CG 1 11-15-2007 19:49
Q33415 - TOLEDO STANLEY OH QT 5 11-15-2007 15:20
Q33515 - GRAND RAPIDS MI CG 1 11-15-2007 13:27
CP X50014 - EAST END ODESSA MI CH 117 11-15-2007 22:59
D80115 - HOLLAND MI CG 25 11-15-2007 20:04
D80215 - LAMAR MI CG 4 11-15-2007 21:09
D80315 - up near West Olive 19:54
N90315 - ROLL AVENUE CHICAGO IL DC 012 11-15-2007 22:49
N91014 - WEST OLIVE MI CGC 33 11-15-2007 10:35
N95615 - at Chicago
D00815 - LIVINGSTON MI CG 98 11-15-2007 19:55
K90514 - at Toledo(Toledo to GR Lime train)
D70015 - LAMAR MI CG 4 11-15-2007 23:02
D70815 - LANSING MI CH 87 11-15-2007 22:34
D70915 - FOWLERVILLE MI CH 62 11-15-2007 22:49
P37015 - GRAND RAPIDS MI CG 1 11-15-2007 23:01

[intocable83]

Do they also use the Superliner cars on Amtrak's Blue Water? Last I remember they didn't but maybe i just wasn't paying attention to it last year.

[SD80MAC]

Do they also use the Superliner cars on Amtrak's Blue Water? Last I remember they didn't but maybe i just wasn't paying attention to it last year.

They don't use Superliners on the Bluewater or the Wolverines. I heard it had something to do with the fact that they aren't bi-directional? They may just not have enough to equip all the Michigan runs, either.

[redside20]

Hey Zack, do you know where N907 is right now? if so maybe it will come through tonight through Delaware. however its off to Fort Wayne this weekend

[PerRock]

Do they also use the Superliner cars on Amtrak's Blue Water? Last I remember they didn't but maybe i just wasn't paying attention to it last year.

They don't use Superliners on the Bluewater or the Wolverines. I heard it had something to do with the fact that they aren't bi-directional? They may just not have enough to equip all the Michigan runs, either.

Thats somewhat true Superlioner I cars anre not bi-directional. Super II are about half and half. If Amtrak were to throw them onto one of the other two trians it would be a fairly big hassle for them to sort out the super Is from the super IIs and then go the extra step with the IIs to find the bi-directional ones. So they will just add some more horizons or amfleets onto the wolveriene and BW.

peter

[intocable83]

thanks, i guess that would make sense for them to not use them on those lines then.