West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming
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Re: West Michigan RR Abandonment Petition Coming
So where did the rest of the locomotives go that were there? Also if stored cars are on the east end how do they run around the train as CSX after dropping off would put the cars on the west end. Does CSX notify them first so they can have the engine positioned in town prior to arrival?
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Do you know where in Hartford that the hoppers are getting loaded with rubber chips? Do they get loaded right where CSX drops off the cars or does West Michigan RR pull them a bit east? Also heard they are getting tank cars sometimes as well.lighthouse wrote:1/23/18....2 hoppers on the way 2 the West Michigan Railroad for rubber chip loading
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Currently there are two ex-UP locomotives stored on the east end of the line behind the Amish metal shop. There might still be another locomotive stored behind Hanson Logistics which is seen in the video I linked earlier. I also believe there is a small yard on the west end of the line that the cars can be stored on or the locomotive can run around on.Super Chief wrote:So where did the rest of the locomotives go that were there? Also if stored cars are on the east end how do they run around the train as CSX after dropping off would put the cars on the west end. Does CSX notify them first so they can have the engine positioned in town prior to arrival?
I am pretty sure the rubber chip hoppers are loaded in the city as it is the only place on the line that is able to load cars like that.~Z~ wrote:Do you know where in Hartford that the hoppers are getting loaded with rubber chips? Do they get loaded right where CSX drops off the cars or does West Michigan RR pull them a bit east? Also heard they are getting tank cars sometimes as well.lighthouse wrote:1/23/18....2 hoppers on the way 2 the West Michigan Railroad for rubber chip loading
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They unload and load everything right in downtown Hartford by CSX at the moment. No yard or runaround on the railroad, so the engine is always on the east end of the "train".
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Were the T6 and CF7 moved someplace else?Farmboybello wrote:Currently there are two ex-UP locomotives stored on the east end of the line behind the Amish metal shop. There might still be another locomotive stored behind Hanson Logistics which is seen in the video I linked earlier. I also believe there is a small yard on the west end of the line that the cars can be stored on or the locomotive can run around on.
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The only locomotives that i know for sure that are there are the two ex-UP MP15s and #1512. There may be more that are hidden behind Hanson Logistics though.NS3322 wrote:Were the T6 and CF7 moved someplace else?Farmboybello wrote:Currently there are two ex-UP locomotives stored on the east end of the line behind the Amish metal shop. There might still be another locomotive stored behind Hanson Logistics which is seen in the video I linked earlier. I also believe there is a small yard on the west end of the line that the cars can be stored on or the locomotive can run around on.
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WMI and GLLX currently have the two ex UP MP15s, 1512, a T6, and the CF7 on the line. GLLX #4 sounds like it will be joining them at some point.
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How does WMI even make money with this being right next to the CSX interchange? They only transport the cars a few hundred feet? Seems CSX could service this themselves?SD80MAC wrote:They unload and load everything right in downtown Hartford by CSX at the moment. No yard or runaround on the railroad, so the engine is always on the east end of the "train".
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I’ve asked the same question.
It’s my understanding that one of the factors is a short line will switch the cars when the customer wants for less cost.
[quote="TC”]How does WMI even make money with this being right next to the CSX interchange? They only transport the cars a few hundred feet? Seems CSX could service this themselves?[/quote]
It’s my understanding that one of the factors is a short line will switch the cars when the customer wants for less cost.
[quote="TC”]How does WMI even make money with this being right next to the CSX interchange? They only transport the cars a few hundred feet? Seems CSX could service this themselves?[/quote]
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So the rumors they were going to put the line in back to Paw Paw can be put to rest. Bring on the trail to run in front of the Lake Cora residents homes, better than tankers being stored there. No news on this for a while so my guess the current state of affairs will suffice.
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I would not totally put to rest the possibility of this line going back to Paw Paw. The owners of the line are putting in serious effort at finding customers along the line. Which would help bring a reason to expand it.Super Chief wrote:So the rumors they were going to put the line in back to Paw Paw can be put to rest. Bring on the trail to run in front of the Lake Cora residents homes, better than tankers being stored there. No news on this for a while so my guess the current state of affairs will suffice.
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Went to Hartford to Hanson Logistics east of town. They have been doing lots of track work but not past
59th street. From there to Lawrence, they have cleared the brush but that is it so far. There is no way
to rebuild the line to Paw Paw without major $$$$$. Too much mother nature to clear away and the crossings
have been torn out east of Lawrence.
59th street. From there to Lawrence, they have cleared the brush but that is it so far. There is no way
to rebuild the line to Paw Paw without major $$$$$. Too much mother nature to clear away and the crossings
have been torn out east of Lawrence.
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"The WMRR fully intends to reactivate segments of the corridor as they become economically viable."
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Pretty much sums up Pioneer!Though getting to the point of making an offer has not been easy, working with the current owners of
WMRR has been a breath of fresh air. The previous owners were not very helpful, not just to the DNR,
but also to the new owners. The DNR’s discussions with the previous owners went silent for an
extended period. When it finally came to light that the corridor had been sold, we were soon to
discover that the new owners were not provided the basic information to the corridor they purchased.
This included such things as track maps and copies of the original deeds.
I am glad the line has new owners!
Is the infamous Lake Cora "backyard running" section between mileposts 25.1 and 26.5?The DNR applauds these efforts, and negotiations with WMRR have included discussions that the reactivated corridor will allow
for both rail and trail activities where possible. Except, between Mileposts 25.1 and 26.5. Here, the
previous owners of the WMRR sold the corridor, but that sale was made,
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YesNS3322 wrote:Is the infamous Lake Cora "backyard running" section between mileposts 25.1 and 26.5?The DNR applauds these efforts, and negotiations with WMRR have included discussions that the reactivated corridor will allow
for both rail and trail activities where possible. Except, between Mileposts 25.1 and 26.5. Here, the
previous owners of the WMRR sold the corridor, but that sale was made,
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So in other words, reactivated rail service will never extend beyond Lawrence?The DNR applauds these efforts, and negotiations with WMRR have included discussions that the reactivated corridor will allow
for both rail and trail activities where possible. Except, between Mileposts 25.1 and 26.5. Here, the
previous owners of the WMRR sold the corridor, but that sale was made,
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I'm happy to take advantage of the opportunity to post this image as much as I can.NS3322 wrote: Is the infamous Lake Cora "backyard running" section between mileposts 25.1 and 26.5?
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Not unless you can go around, or fork up a ton of money.J T wrote:So in other words, reactivated rail service will never extend beyond Lawrence?The DNR applauds these efforts, and negotiations with WMRR have included discussions that the reactivated corridor will allow
for both rail and trail activities where possible. Except, between Mileposts 25.1 and 26.5. Here, the
previous owners of the WMRR sold the corridor, but that sale was made,
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Pioneer did sell the right of way next to Lake Cora but as I believe the STB document stated, the purchase agreement with the new owners included a clause that they have the right to reacquire the land to build through the area next to Lake Cora to connect the two segments of the right of way. Therefore, returning rail service to Paw Paw is 100% possible.O Scale Railfanner wrote:Not unless you can go around, or fork up a ton of money.J T wrote:So in other words, reactivated rail service will never extend beyond Lawrence?The DNR applauds these efforts, and negotiations with WMRR have included discussions that the reactivated corridor will allow
for both rail and trail activities where possible. Except, between Mileposts 25.1 and 26.5. Here, the
previous owners of the WMRR sold the corridor, but that sale was made,
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Oh good! Cannot wait to hear the complaining from the NIMBY people!Farmboybello wrote:Pioneer did sell the right of way next to Lake Cora but as I believe the STB document stated, the purchase agreement with the new owners included a clause that they have the right to reacquire the land to build through the area next to Lake Cora to connect the two segments of the right of way. Therefore, returning rail service to Paw Paw is 100% possible.