Fiat- Chrysler Expansion
Fiat- Chrysler Expansion
Looks like this might be good news for rail in Detroit.
https://www.freep.com/story/money/2019/ ... 090699001/
https://www.freep.com/story/money/2019/ ... 090699001/
Trails to Rails. Put the track back.
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Re: Fiat- Chrysler Expansion
It will be interesting to see how much traffic does result. Do they plan on building a loading ramp on site, or farming the work out to other facilities?
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It sounds like since my last post that one of the large parcel of lands purchased was the old Budd Co. plant lands from the Morouns. They'd demolished part of the plant in 2017 and allowed Chrysler to use it for staging. Now that the city has it, though, there is no telling what Chrysler will do. It's completely possible they use it to expand the railyard; that really makes the most sense, really. I guess we'll just have to wait for more details. I guess in any case, we're bound to see an increase in rail traffic from the place.
It sounds like since my last post that one of the large parcel of lands purchased was the old Budd Co. plant lands from the Morouns. They'd demolished part of the plant in 2017 and allowed Chrysler to use it for staging. Now that the city has it, though, there is no telling what Chrysler will do. It's completely possible they use it to expand the railyard; that really makes the most sense, really. I guess we'll just have to wait for more details. I guess in any case, we're bound to see an increase in rail traffic from the place.
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With existing ramps they can load over 90 cars at a time. There are some additional existing tracks that can be converted into loading ramps adding significantly more capacity.
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If you look at a aerial view of Mack yard you will notice the there are gaps in between some of the tracks. the tracks are numbered from east to west. 1,2,3, and then jumps to 5, 7, 9 , 11, 13, 15, 17. The latter (15 & 17) were converted to loading tracks. Why you ask ? Well, the city of DETROIT NEVER CAME THROUGH WITH THEIR PORTION OF THE MONEY TO COMPLETE THE WORK ! Not a surprise I guess . Maybe this time around they will come up with he funding . Room for expansion is there, just need the $$$$.
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The city shouldn't be involved in building railroad infrastructure for Fiat-Chrysler, and it's my understanding that they are going to give FCA the land, thank god. It's going to be up to Chrysler what they want to do, rail-wise, over here and that's how it should be.
I feel like maybe we're talking about two different lots, maybe? FCA owns the land Mack Yard is on, it's included in the parcel which includes the FCA Jefferson North. The city purchased the old Budd parcel next door (directly to the west across the tracks) from Crown (Morouns), along with some other large parcels to the north and south of the plants.
I feel like maybe we're talking about two different lots, maybe? FCA owns the land Mack Yard is on, it's included in the parcel which includes the FCA Jefferson North. The city purchased the old Budd parcel next door (directly to the west across the tracks) from Crown (Morouns), along with some other large parcels to the north and south of the plants.
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Detroit will do just about anything to keep workers in town to pay that city income tax.
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Assuming that FCA uses rail to load out vehicles, who will benefit from the increase in autorack loading?
Another words, will this new business go to CN, NS, or CSX?
Thanks.
David Lang
Another words, will this new business go to CN, NS, or CSX?
Thanks.
David Lang
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It's switched by Conrail so both CSX and NS will get most of the business with CN possibly getting a few carloads.
David Lang wrote:Assuming that FCA uses rail to load out vehicles, who will benefit from the increase in autorack loading?
Another words, will this new business go to CN, NS, or CSX?
Thanks.
David Lang
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NS handles all of the autoracks to and from Conrail and has for years.AARR wrote:It's switched by Conrail so both CSX and NS will get most of the business with CN possibly getting a few carloads.David Lang wrote:Assuming that FCA uses rail to load out vehicles, who will benefit from the increase in autorack loading?
Another words, will this new business go to CN, NS, or CSX?
Thanks.
David Lang
CSX does not have many cars to / from Conrail's Eastside.
CN handles no autoracks from Chrysler in the Detroit area.
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Building LCA was more important.M.D.Bentley wrote:DETROIT NEVER CAME THROUGH WITH THEIR PORTION OF THE MONEY TO COMPLETE THE WORK ! Not a surprise I guess . Maybe this time around they will come up with he funding . Room for expansion is there, just need the $$$$.
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Thank you CRD!
ConrailDetroit wrote:NS handles all of the autoracks to and from Conrail and has for years.
CSX does not have many cars to / from Conrail's Eastside.
CN handles no autoracks from Chrysler in the Detroit area.
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ConrailDetroit wrote:Building LCA was more important.M.D.Bentley wrote:DETROIT NEVER CAME THROUGH WITH THEIR PORTION OF THE MONEY TO COMPLETE THE WORK ! Not a surprise I guess . Maybe this time around they will come up with he funding . Room for expansion is there, just need the $$$$.
That was along time go, WAY, before the idea for the LCA was even conceived (80's). Coleman Young era, And we know how that was