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Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 1:19 pm
by Man o' War
It appears that the Chrysler warehouse facility on the CN Mount Clemens sub at MP 22.5 has been shut down. It was being switched daily by L515 out of Pontiac, but has not seen any activity since late April and the tracks into the plant are heavily rusted. Not sure of any future plans. L515 only (rarely) comes to Mount Clemens anymore unless they need to run around their train after switching GLR in Fraser. L533 still comes down from Port Huron a few times a week to switch Chesterfield, but the middle of the division is largely void of local activity these days. Fortunately, still have 4-6 manifests each day.

Man o' War

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 3:37 pm
by GP30M4216
GP30M4216 wrote:
Thu May 16, 2024 8:39 am
redside20 wrote:
Wed May 15, 2024 8:41 pm
Well there goes the georgia pacific boxboard plant in milan.

https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/20 ... oyees.html
Dang, another blow for the Milan NS local. Hopefully, another corrugated board maker sees potential in that plant and location and picks it up….and continues to use rail!

I don’t know about anyone else, but I always end up looking at boxes that arrive in the mail/from Amazon/etc. to see where they were made (and if I know if they use rail). In West Michigan, we get a lot of boxes from PCA in Grandville (served by CSXT), but I’ve seen boxes from Georgia-Pacific in Milan too and I’m like “hey they use rail too!” Bummer.
RIP 🪦
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Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Fri Jun 07, 2024 4:23 pm
by AARR
Thank you for the update.
Man o' War wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2024 1:19 pm
It appears that the Chrysler warehouse facility on the CN Mount Clemens sub at MP 22.5 has been shut down. It was being switched daily by L515 out of Pontiac but has not seen any activity since late April and the tracks into the plant are heavily rusted. Not sure of any future plans. L515 only (rarely) comes to Mount Clemens anymore unless they need to run around their train after switching GLR in Fraser. L533 still comes down from Port Huron a few times a week to switch Chesterfield, but the middle of the division is largely void of local activity these days. Fortunately, still have 4-6 manifests each day.

Man o' War

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:33 am
by GP30M4216
Meanwhile, in the eastern UP, From back in April:

“The new manufacturing facility will be suitable for up to three tenants, including Maple Transport, Inc., which has committed to creating 10 new jobs in addition to five retained jobs for its expanding operations. The project also includes infrastructure enhancements with the construction of a railroad spur, extension of municipal water, parking and driveway access from W. Kincheloe Street, and an on-site sewer system.”

This is in the Kincheloe industrial park and would be served by CN.

https://www.michiganbusiness.org/press- ... -facility/

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:52 pm
by joeyuboats
Not Chysler anymore--- first it was:
DAIMLER- CHRYSLER. then
FIAT- CHRYSLER. now it's
STELLANTIS. Next it will be
G O N E.

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 1:27 pm
by David Collins
joeyuboats wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:52 pm
Not Chysler anymore--- first it was:
DAIMLER- CHRYSLER. then
FIAT- CHRYSLER. now it's
STELLANTIS. Next it will be
G O N E.
You can thank my dad for Daimler/Chrysler split in 2007.

He helped orchestrate it.

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:48 pm
by Man o' War
Lo and behold, it seems Chrysler in Mount Clemens is back in business and being switched by CN as I write. Figures that as soon as I posted it as being shut down it would come back to life. Good to see anyway.

Man o' War

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:20 pm
by joeyuboats
Used to work for them, 2 nights a week while going to college. My dad retired from Warren Truck in 1974, after 39 years . The Chrysler of old was way better and cooler than this Stellantis crap of today. I give them about 5 to 10 years tops, then they will be gone.

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:42 pm
by Man o' War
joeyuboats wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 9:20 pm
Used to work for them, 2 nights a week while going to college. My dad retired from Warren Truck in 1974, after 39 years . The Chrysler of old was way better and cooler than this Stellantis crap of today. I give them about 5 to 10 years tops, then they will be gone.
Nothing would surprise me anymore. I think Jeep helps to keep them above water today, although I honestly know little about their modern day operations. My dad owned a 1947 Town and Country convertible which was classier and superior to anything Stellantis builds today - or anybody else for that matter. The wood on the doors alone weighed as much as most cars todays. The only thing I'm interested in regarding Chrysler is the business made available to CN. C'est tout!

Man o' War

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:53 am
by joeyuboats
And--- lots of people do not know that before he got involved with the auto businesses, that he was in railroading, and at one time, used to work for ALCO .

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:04 am
by AARR
Those might be some cars that got lost and have been crisscrossing the country and finally are getting delivered two months late.
😉
Man o' War wrote:
Mon Jun 10, 2024 8:48 pm
Lo and behold, it seems Chrysler in Mount Clemens is back in business and being switched by CN as I write. Figures that as soon as I posted it as being shut down it would come back to life. Good to see anyway.

Man o' War

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:02 pm
by LansingRailFan
https://www.michiganfarmnews.com/zfs-pu ... -industry-

ZFS purchases Valero’s Riga ethanol facility

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:46 pm
by Erroneous Monk
LansingRailFan wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:02 pm
https://www.michiganfarmnews.com/zfs-pu ... -industry-

ZFS purchases Valero’s Riga ethanol facility
Will this be the first ZFS property serviced by one of their railroads?

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 3:42 pm
by AARR
I think they transload soybean products on JAIL
Erroneous Monk wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:46 pm
LansingRailFan wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:02 pm
https://www.michiganfarmnews.com/zfs-pu ... -industry-

ZFS purchases Valero’s Riga ethanol facility
Will this be the first ZFS property serviced by one of their railroads?

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:02 pm
by 1TrackMind
So the rumors were true. Should be a big boost to the adbf if full production returns.

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:32 pm
by redside20
Which connecting road will they ship the most traffic too? the ns at Adrian? or IORY at Riga? or

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2024 5:51 pm
by AARR
They used to ship mostly to NS in Adrian but some went to IORY at Riga including at least one 25-30 car block of ethanol that was setout for IORY at Petersburg Siding.
redside20 wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:32 pm
Which connecting road will they ship the most traffic too? the ns at Adrian? or IORY at Riga? or

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:20 am
by Chip
AARR wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 5:51 pm
They used to ship mostly to NS in Adrian but some went to IORY at Riga including at least one 25-30 car block of ethanol that was setout for IORY at Petersburg Siding.
redside20 wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:32 pm
Which connecting road will they ship the most traffic too? the ns at Adrian? or IORY at Riga? or
Any chance IORY would somehow get more traffic via CN in Flat Rock from this? Kinda miss the morning southbound trains.

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 2:53 am
by AARR
IIRC the DDG and ethanol business interchanged with IORY went south, not north. I think the ethanol went to a refinery in Lima and the DDG either to the transload near WCH or along the Cinncy River.

The dry ice place was getting tank cars from CN/IORY but I haven’t seen those on CN in awhile.
Chip wrote:
Wed Jul 10, 2024 1:20 am
AARR wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 5:51 pm
They used to ship mostly to NS in Adrian but some went to IORY at Riga including at least one 25-30 car block of ethanol that was setout for IORY at Petersburg Siding.
redside20 wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:32 pm
Which connecting road will they ship the most traffic too? the ns at Adrian? or IORY at Riga? or
Any chance IORY would somehow get more traffic via CN in Flat Rock from this? Kinda miss the morning southbound trains.

Re: Michigan Rail business news redux

Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2024 7:10 am
by LansingRailFan
Erroneous Monk wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:46 pm
LansingRailFan wrote:
Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:02 pm
https://www.michiganfarmnews.com/zfs-pu ... -industry-

ZFS purchases Valero’s Riga ethanol facility
Will this be the first ZFS property serviced by one of their railroads?
They have a transload on the JAIL for soybean oil but directly, yes it’ll be the first.