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Cranes

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:27 pm
by ConrailDetr​oit
Do cranes have their own power in them or do they need a locomotive to move them :?:

Cranes

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:54 pm
by KenB
locomotive cranes are self-propelled and can pull one or two cars.

Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:59 pm
by trainjunkie47
Here is a crane on the shared assets at Delray.

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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:05 am
by Racer
I believe they call these Burrow Cranes. Is there any that still run on CSX? I am referring to the 2-axle ones that are usually in a yellow paint scheme that I saw many times in the 1990s carrying 2-3 gondolas and hoppers up Middle River and East Yard here in Plymouth.

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:16 am
by sd70accsxt700
Burrow cranes are two axle jobs, used to be one in Saginaw, that went out on the main all the time. One in Walbridge, but havent seen it move. The ex-CR ones, and still CR ones, are American cranes. They are a four wheel two truck type, like the photo. One at Stanley yard, one in Toledo on the NS here, and maney more.

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:20 am
by Racer
Do they actually still run any of them Matt? I haven't seen one go through here in years.

Stanley yard crane

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:00 am
by thebaron
The crane in Stanley yard is used mainly to pick up scrap and other metal debris that fall out of the gons in "the bowl" in K-yard.

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 9:28 am
by GreatLakesRailfan
The crane at the National New York Central Museum in Elkhart (Indiana) has two six axle trucks. One axle on each truck is/was powered, which allowed crews on the museum grounds to shuffle the museum's equipment around for maintenance and display purposes. I believe the axles were connected via a chain drive to the crane's internal diesel motor. However it's connected, the crane has/had enough power to move several cars at once, as well as the occasional GG1 or steam locomotive. I remember riding in the cab of a certain steamer as it was pushed by that crane through the museum grounds...it was quite an experience. :wink:

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:13 pm
by mikerm19
C&M has both.

The ex-C&O 250-Ton Brownhoist #101003 crane we have can move on it's own (probably similar to above). You should see this thing move. If it doesn't instill at least some fear into you, nothing will (you thought tracks moved and made noise under normal load...). The crane weighs a little over 250 tons.

We have a smaller crane that can't move on it's own, but still requires a boom tender car.

Then we have a little tie crane, that does move on it's own (chain driven), and it's awesome to operate.

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:12 pm
by GP30M4216
That one at the National NYC Museum is one of the New York Central's 250 ton Industrial Brownhoist cranes, similar to the C&M's C&O of the same type. Built in Bay City, MI, actually. The one at the NNYC Museum is from the donated Selkirk wrecker train the Museum acquired in the late 90s. Funny thing, the 250 tonner from the Elkhart Yard is actually at the Railroader's Museum of Altoona in Pennsylvania! The NYC Museum also has a older 150 tonner on the property which is not operable that i know if.

As for those American Cranes from the Conrail, I've seen one often parked at Livernois Yard at the east end yard office. I remember seeing one around Kalamazoo in the past too, but unsure of where it came from. I also recall seeing them doing work on Conrail lines around Delray, and on the Junction 2ndary near Dix and Oakwood.

Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:55 pm
by mikerm19
Thats what it is (C&M's yellow crane), it's an American. Thanks, I forgot.

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:52 am
by pudgy
Mike, the American (Yellow) crane used to be self propelled, but one of our past volunteers exceeded the mechanical speed limit and burned out the traction motors. You missed this past weekend, we actually used it to do some lifting. I'll tell you about it when I see you next. Happy railfanning!

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:55 am
by Raildudes dad
the American (Yellow) crane used to be self propelled, but one of our past volunteers exceeded the mechanical speed limit and burned out the traction motors.
It was hauled "dead in tow" at a speed the motors should have been cut out for. The motors literally exploded. It was a handy little machine up to that point.

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:55 am
by mikerm19
Oh yeah, I heard all about what happened.. lol

Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 12:08 pm
by Norm
I occasionally see one of CN's cranes on the Holly. It's self propelled, ugly, black, and moves slow enough a snail could outrun it.

IIRC, it has a sticker on the outside saying something like the maximum speed is 20 MPH. 10 is about the fastest I've ever seen it move.