hesr derailment
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2009 11:20 pm
hesr 800 derailed at mershon about 1pm with a grain train with all furx cov hopp #85--- series
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its still around it is at the saginaw railway museum at 900 maple st saginaw mijukeman45 wrote:I miss the tower
I dont remember how long its been laying there, but i seem to remember it at least 3-4 years.danted23 wrote:I just found the overturned hopper that you were referring to on maps.live.com. How long has it been on its side? They just left it there?
Insurance CompanyJDavis21835 wrote:I dont remember how long its been laying there, but i seem to remember it at least 3-4 years.danted23 wrote:I just found the overturned hopper that you were referring to on maps.live.com. How long has it been on its side? They just left it there?
This derailment leads me to a question. This was an HSER train, on what i believe is LSRC rail, since they are the ones doing the track work. Who pays for hulcher, and the lost product? I am assuming its LSRC since the "usual suspects" are on site. LSRC uses a farm out of Birch Run to remove any grain, and they use Hulcher for most derails.
Hi "tsby fan" I heard from a HESR employee that one of the grain hoppers had a bad flange on one of the trucks. It was worn out. Track structure was good.tsby_fan wrote:You know, i thought for sure that that portion of track- the curve headed toward the river & bridge- was just recently rebuilt/repaired/updated only this past year. What caused the derail, has anyone heard?
Al
Maybe it'll prevent anymore cars from tipping all the way over and spilling the load.JDavis21835 wrote:Looks to me like these hoppers are not going anywhere anytime soon.
Good ties, welded rail and pandral clips on that curve would helpBB wrote:Maybe it'll prevent anymore cars from tipping all the way over and spilling the load.JDavis21835 wrote:Looks to me like these hoppers are not going anywhere anytime soon.
Wait, what? I thought it was already discussed that the condition of the track had nothing to do with the situation? I'm not getting your point.Re: hesr derailment
by jukeman45 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:39 am
BB wrote:
JDavis21835 wrote:
Looks to me like these hoppers are not going anywhere anytime soon.
Maybe it'll prevent anymore cars from tipping all the way over and spilling the load.
Good ties, welded rail and pandral clips on that curve would help
Maybe so, I could care less what caused it.LSRC wrote:Wait, what? I thought it was already discussed that the condition of the track had nothing to do with the situation? I'm not getting your point.Re: hesr derailment
by jukeman45 on Tue Jan 05, 2010 6:39 am
BB wrote:
JDavis21835 wrote:
Looks to me like these hoppers are not going anywhere anytime soon.
Maybe it'll prevent anymore cars from tipping all the way over and spilling the load.
Good ties, welded rail and pandral clips on that curve would help
That wye was known as the grand rapids wye, I think they still call it that, But the trains for grand rapids are long gone, Febuary of 1981, I remember the last trains to and from GR, my how things have changed, Thanks for that info ALCO244.ALCO244 wrote:Just for the record, the derailment last week at Mershon in Carrollton, MI was Saginaw Bay Southern, not the HESR. The SBS had picked up the train from the MMRR at Paines and was bringing it through the Mershon interlocker when the derailment happened. The HESR 800 crew was trapped behind the SBS train in Genesee yard. They in turn worked with SBS to tie onto the rear of the train and pull it into Genesee yard to clear crossings.
Hulchers moved the cars away from the track during the night and LSRC/SBS track forces had the track back in service by 1630 New Years Eve day.
AL