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This is the thread for anything regarding the locomotive rosters of Michigan Genesee & Wyoming Roads (MQT, MS, MMRR, GRE & HESR). New units, old units, repaints, etc. Post if you've got something

There will be 2 lists kept here:
1. List of units on property in Michigan not in the G&W Corporate Scheme
2. List of changes undertaken on the road to a standard paint scheme in Michigan on the G&W

Michigan Non-G&W Paint List
RPT Mark / Number / Paint Scheme
- IMRR 81 [SD20] (C&IM Green Scheme) *not an original RA unit*
- HESR 2027 [GP38] (New England Central Blue & Yellow)
- HESR 2028 [GP38-2] (CMGN Gray & Red Scheme)
- HESR 2029 [GP38AC] (RailAmerica Gray & Red Scheme)
- MQT 2040 [GP38-2] (Patched Union Pacific Scheme)
- MQT 2041 [GP38-2] (Patched [w/ G&W MQT Logos]Marquette Rail Yellow Scheme)
- MQT 2042 [GP38-2] (Patched Union Pacific Scheme)
- MQT 2043 [GP38-2] (Patched Union Pacific Scheme)
- MQT 2044 [GP38-2] (Patched Union Pacific Scheme)
- HESR 2661 [SD40M-2] (Patched Union Pacific Scheme)
- HESR 2668 [SD40M-2] (Patched Union Pacific Scheme)
- HESR 3036 [GP40-2LW] (HESR Black Scheme)
- HESR 3037 [GP40-2LW] (HESR Black Scheme)
- KRR 3805 [GP35M] (KRR Maroon Scheme)
- HESR 3865 [GP38-2] (patched RailAmerica Red, White & Blue Scheme)
- HESR 3866 [GP38-2] (patched RailAmerica Red, White & Blue Scheme)
- HESR 3867 [GP38-2] (patched RailAmerica Red, White & Blue Scheme)
- HESR 3868 [GP38-2] (patched RailAmerica Red, White & Blue Scheme)

Total: 18 predecessor-painted units


Predecessor Unit Changes:
1. Aug-2013: KRR 3801 [GP35M]: Reassigned to KRR from MS, departs wearing KRR Maroon Scheme
2. Aug-2013: MMRR 3836 [GP38]: Reassigned to CVRR from MS, departs wearing MMRR Railtex Scheme
3. Aug-2013: KRR 3803 [GP35M]: Reassigned to TPW from MS, departs wearing KRR Maroon Scheme
4. Sep-2013: GLLX 3001 [SD40-2]: Owner: GLLX 3001 to MQT 3389; Paint: Marquette Rail Phase I to G&W Orange w/ MQT Logos
5. Sept-2013: HESR 5086 [C40-7]: Retired & Scrapped, meets the torch in patched BN Green Scheme
6. Sept-2013: GLLX 4433 [GP9]: Lease expired, returned to GLLX. Leaves roster in patched GT Paint
7. Sept-2013: GLLX 4 [SW9]: Lease expired, returned to GLLX. Leaves roster in patched Leelanau Scenic Paint
8. Oct-2013: GLLX 3003 [SD40-2]: Owner: GLLX 3003 to MQT 3391; Paint: GLLX Gray to G&W Orange w/ MQT Logos
9. Oct-2013: GLLX 3002 [SD40-2]: Owner: GLLX 3002 to MQT 3390; Paint: GLLX Gray & Yellow to G&W Orange w/ MQT Logos
10. Nov-2013: HESR 3038 [GP40-2LW]: Paint: HESR Black to G&W Orange w/ HESR Logos
11. Nov-2013: MS 73 [SW1200]: Owner: MS 73 to MMRR 1216; Paint: Railtex MS Red & Gray to G&W Orange w/ MMRR Logos
12. May-2014: HESR 2025 [GP38AC]: Paint: RA Gray & Red to G&W Orange w/ HESR Logos
13. May-2014: GR 3839 [GP38]: Owner: GR 3839 to MMRR 2057; Paint: Railtex GR Red & white to G&W Orange w/ MMRR Logos; Reassigned to MS 6-24-14
14. Sep-2014: MQT 2004 [GP38-2]: Renumbered from MQT 2004 to 2040
15. Sep-2014: MQT 2006 [GP38-2]: Renumbered from MQT 2006 to 2042
16. Sep-2014: MQT 2008 [GP38-2]: Renumbered from MQT 2008 to 2044
17. Oct-2014: MQT 2007 [GP38-2]: Renumbered from MQT 2007 to 2043
18. Oct-2014: MQT 2005 [GP38-2]: Renumbered from MQT 2005 to 2041; New G&W Logo on nose.
19. Winter-2015: CFE 3885 [GP38-2]: Reassigned from MS to GRE
20. Apr-2015: KRR 3805 [GP35M]: Reassigned from KRR to GRE. Still wears KRR Maroon.
21. Jul-2015: KRR 3805 [GP35M]: Reassigned from GRE to MQT.
22. May-2016: HESR 1721 [GP9]: Scrapped. Left roster in RA Red, White and Blue.
23. May-2016: HESR 8802 [GP38AC]: Reassigned to IMRR. Leaves in HESR ex-CMGN Black Scheme.
24. Jun-2016: MMRR 24 [GP9]: Sold to International Paper Company in VA. Departs in Railtex Paint.
25. Dec-2016: HESR 2026 [GP38AC]: Repainted into G&W w/ HESR Logos. Formerly CMGN Black Scheme.
26. Feb-2017: IMRR 81 [SD20]: Reassigned from IMRR to MQT. Arrived in C&IM Green Scheme.
27. Sep-2017: CFE 3885 [GP38]: Repainted and renumbered to GR 2104.
*note: see the Wiki Roster Pages for a full unit-by-unit description of each railroad's entire roster.

Please post any corrections or updates. Photos of the units in service are welcome as well!

Are a couple of black 8900 series U23B's stil on the roster? 8903 and 8905 possibly?

AARR wrote:Are a couple of black 8900 series U23B's stil on the roster? 8903 and 905 possibly?

I did the MMRR, GRE, MS & MQT from Memory, but I did the HESR based on the Wiki Page. I really don't pay too much attention to the HESR, so I can't tell you one way or the other, I only went off that list:

http://railroadfan.com/wiki/index.php/Huron_%26_Eastern

AARR wrote:Are a couple of black 8900 series U23B's stil on the roster? 8903 and 8905 possibly?

Last time I was in Bay City 8905 was still on the property but retired and stored. 8903 and the 3 B units were sold and went south almost 2 years ago (Mexico I think). 5086, 5175 and 5492 are also stored/retired in Bay City with their stacks capped. I wouldn't really even put the GEs on this list since they are retired and will likely be sold or scrapped.

Also fixed some inaccuracies with that page of the wiki. 5492 is actually a B30-7.

Are a couple of black 8900 series U23B's stil on the roster? 8903 and 8905 possibly?

I think it was the 8903 and the B-units that left for Mexico (?). Not sure what happened to the 8905. That might still be buried in Wenona.

As of the beginning of the month, the HESR had the 5086 and 5175 sidelined along with AEX 999993 (labeled as the 998. I believe that the 999 left). Not sure what's up with the SW12. That's been patched for Andersons for quite some time.



As of a year ago, they still had that TPW geep behind the shops, but I think I remember someone saying that it was scrapped. Maybe someone more useful can chime in?

Also, as of 1/1/13, I those SD40-2s were on the property. 2661 and 2668.

One of the SGVY units went to the ADBF, can't remember which though.

I am curious why you called the paint scheme on the GLLX 3001 orange? It looks like blue and yellow to me. The 3002 also has the Marquette WC/PM strips on the nose a notable difference.

CAT345C wrote:I am curious why you called the paint scheme on the GLLX 3001 orange? It looks like blue and yellow to me. The 3002 also has the Marquette WC/PM strips on the nose a notable difference.

I Labled 3001 orange because I already had a "MQT Yellow" listed, and it's not too far off, with 3001 being an orange-yellow.

The 3002 thing is a minor detail, really. Noteable, perhaps, but not really a "paint scheme" IMO. 95% of the unit looks just like her sister, 3003.

But I'll change it

Speaking of the 3003 where is the video of the z151 passing the amshack the other day?

GLC 392 wrote:Speaking of the 3003 where is the video of the z151 passing the amshack the other day?

Z151-24 (with sticking handbrake, 3003 leading)


-or-

Z151-18 (3003 trailing)


Both by bozerabc123.

MQT3001 wrote:

CAT345C wrote:I am curious why you called the paint scheme on the GLLX 3001 orange? It looks like blue and yellow to me. The 3002 also has the Marquette WC/PM strips on the nose a notable difference.

I Labled 3001 orange because I already had a "MQT Yellow" listed, and it's not too far off, with 3001 being an orange-yellow.

The 3002 thing is a minor detail, really. Noteable, perhaps, but not really a "paint scheme" IMO. 95% of the unit looks just like her sister, 3003.

But I'll change it

Minor detail? Really? How many suttle differences are there in the CSX Yn schemes and the amtrak schemes. Its a very noticeable difference.

Are you the person that called in that stuck hand brake?

Mmm hmmm that answers it! There wasn't any handbrakes on that train! Who ever called that in needs to know what they are looking at, we had to inspect that train no biggy but when there isn't hand brakes on it makes your day long.... That car was just locked up from the brake application that was set on the train.

GLC 392 wrote:Mmm hmmm that answers it! There wasn't any handbrakes on that train! Who ever called that in needs to know what they are looking at, we had to inspect that train no biggy but when there isn't hand brakes on it makes your day long.... That car was just locked up from the brake application that was set on the train.

It wasn't MQT, it was some other Youtube guy. I think JT knows who he is.

Here's the large version of that shot of MMRR 2019, BTW. Not my picture.

SD80MAC wrote:Here's the large version of that shot of MMRR 2019, BTW. Not my picture.

That looks like a regular 38 or maybe 38ac but not a -2. Was it rebuilt and upgraded?

AARR wrote:

SD80MAC wrote:Here's the large version of that shot of MMRR 2019, BTW. Not my picture.

That looks like a regular 38 or maybe 38ac but not a -2. Was it rebuilt and upgraded?

From what I can find, MMRR 2019 (BPRR 51) was built as Penn Central GP38 #7843 in 1970. Looks like after Conrail it even spent a little time on the E&LS.

SD80MAC wrote:

GLC 392 wrote:Mmm hmmm that answers it! There wasn't any handbrakes on that train! Who ever called that in needs to know what they are looking at, we had to inspect that train no biggy but when there isn't hand brakes on it makes your day long.... That car was just locked up from the brake application that was set on the train.

It wasn't MQT, it was some other Youtube guy. I think JT knows who he is.

Yeah, not me. He was once a member here, but got banned. Those of you might recall him because supposadly you guys called him "MQT 3002" in the chatbox, referring to me or something like that. (No need for a discussion, just trying to make it easier for some to remember him).

Anyway, sounds like fun. Did you guys clear town before walking it?

GLC 392 wrote:Mmm hmmm that answers it! There wasn't any handbrakes on that train! Who ever called that in needs to know what they are looking at, we had to inspect that train no biggy but when there isn't hand brakes on it makes your day long.... That car was just locked up from the brake application that was set on the train.

This is the guy who called it in:



Edit: Didn't see the little fella had already posted this vid above. Not sure who the guy is though.

Sorry i should have said, that not Blaming you 3001 i am blaming the other kid, but no we stopped at Fuller and I walked the train.

SD80MAC wrote:

AARR wrote:Are a couple of black 8900 series U23B's stil on the roster? 8903 and 8905 possibly?

Last time I was in Bay City 8905 was still on the property but retired and stored. 8903 and the 3 B units were sold and went south almost 2 years ago (Mexico I think). 5086, 5175 and 5492 are also stored/retired in Bay City with their stacks capped. I wouldn't really even put the GEs on this list since they are retired and will likely be sold or scrapped.

Also fixed some inaccuracies with that page of the wiki. 5492 is actually a B30-7.

I have removed those GEs from the list. Wasn't sure about their state or retirement.

With those 3 removed, our starting total is 31 units.