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City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:30 pm
by PerRock
There's been a new & renewed push to have the city implement a quiet zone for the Ann Arbor Railroad.
If Ann Arbor wants to establish a federally approved "quiet zone" to get freight trains to reduce their horn noise while passing through the city, it may cost city taxpayers several million dollars.

There are costly gate systems and other safety upgrades that would be required by the Federal Railroad Administration at as many 19 different crossings along the Ann Arbor Railroad before quieting train horns would be allowed, the city's staff and hired consultants told residents during a meeting Wednesday night, Oct. 3.
https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/in ... _cost.html

peter

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 7:08 pm
by Ypsi
They will bit*h at the horn and bit*h at the price.. no way to "win" this one lol. Justify the cost by starting commuter trains? :mrgreen: :lol:

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2018 8:02 pm
by johnnycat
Didn't they try this a couple decades ago?

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:36 am
by PerRock
Every couple years a handful of new residents who've moved in next to the tracks complain to the city & the city does another survey... they then balk at the cost & it goes nowhere.

Here is the flyer they're using this time: https://imgur.com/a/XfaCzky

Got a bunch of incorrect information in there; such as they're claiming that the Feds will pay for most of it (they won't... QZ's have to be paid for by the local government), of the fact that they' claim there are only 11 crossings in Ann Arbor, when in fact there is about 25, etc.

peter

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:17 pm
by Ypsi
PerRock wrote:
Here is the flyer they're using this time: https://imgur.com/a/XfaCzky

peter
That poster uses a still from one of my videos, can't say I am too happy about that. They pulled a still frame found likely via google search and used that image.. why they found a shot of the GLC at Osmer to represent the AA in AA is beyond me, considering there are hundreds if not thousands of actual photos of trains in AA. But I will be sending an email if I can find the poster to let them know I'm not pleased.. That is not fair use of my image as it is advertising and not for research/ news etc. I don't intend on doing anything about it, but my content does not support quiet zones.

The original still is attached viewed from my YouTube dashboard

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:34 pm
by NS3322
Ypsi wrote:
PerRock wrote:
Here is the flyer they're using this time: https://imgur.com/a/XfaCzky

peter
That poster uses a still from one of my videos, can't say I am too happy about that. They pulled a still frame found likely via google search and used that image.. why they found a shot of the GLC at Osmer to represent the AA in AA is beyond me, considering there are hundreds if not thousands of actual photos of trains in AA. But I will be sending an email if I can find the poster to let them know I'm not pleased.. That is not fair use of my image as it is advertising and not for research/ news etc. I don't intend on doing anything about it, but my content does not support quiet zones.

The original still is attached viewed from my YouTube dashboard
I had a bad feeling they stole that image...
You would think that if the trains wake them up so often, that they could go and get a photo for themselves.

Read the comments section in the MLive article there is a lot of good material in there.
One comment by "Papa" was especially humorous, "I hope they do it, keep the taxes going up. I just love all the great ideas that come out of AA... whats next neutering pigeons?"

Is "Formercoach1202" a member of this board?

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 4:36 pm
by PerRock
Ypsi wrote:
PerRock wrote:
Here is the flyer they're using this time: https://imgur.com/a/XfaCzky

peter
That poster uses a still from one of my videos, can't say I am too happy about that. They pulled a still frame found likely via google search and used that image.. why they found a shot of the GLC at Osmer to represent the AA in AA is beyond me, considering there are hundreds if not thousands of actual photos of trains in AA. But I will be sending an email if I can find the poster to let them know I'm not pleased.. That is not fair use of my image as it is advertising and not for research/ news etc. I don't intend on doing anything about it, but my content does not support quiet zones.

The original still is attached viewed from my YouTube dashboard
You can try contacting the OP in this Reddit thread, it's where I found the image/poster: https://www.reddit.com/r/AnnArbor/comme ... uiet_zone/

could also send a DMCA Takedown to Reddit & Imgur...

peter

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:14 pm
by Saturnalia
Ypsi wrote:The original still is attached viewed from my YouTube dashboard
Come on man, you're stuck in the past! #StudioBeta

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:15 pm
by justalurker66
Ypsi wrote:They pulled a still frame found likely via google search and used that image.
I had a government study steal images from one of my websites for an official document. They credited "Bing". They later updated the study and removed my images for ones not credited (I assume someone had actually visited the locations by then).

The images they stole could have been taken by someone else ... but they were not. It is a bad feeling when you see an image online and think "that looks familiar" then realize it is your photo. And it has a chilling effect. Some of my best photos will never be shared online because of thieves.

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 10:45 pm
by chapmaja
NS3322 wrote:
Is "Formercoach1202" a member of this board?
That depends on if you agree or disagree with what Formercoach1202 posted.

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 12:18 pm
by Ypsi
Well it seems my request went through and the image was either removed by the website or the OP (less likely the OP takes it down). Either way link takes you to a this page doesn't exist message now. I didn't expect that to work, but I'm glad it did. Image still shows on Reddit so maybe it's just my LTE but I can't get the image to load.. maybe maybe not I won't lose any sleep over it.

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 2:55 pm
by NS3322
chapmaja wrote:
NS3322 wrote:
Is "Formercoach1202" a member of this board?
That depends on if you agree or disagree with what Formercoach1202 posted.
Of course I agree!

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:46 pm
by NYCMan
Just what Ann Arbor needs. They must have more money than brains. They can do this at the same time they build their new $85 Million Amtrak Depot. too. Better yet, why don't they just elevate all of the tracks? It might be cheaper!

And, cannot wait until their next study comes out that the vibrations from the trains are upsetting the nesting grounds of the endangered red-chested Pyranes squirrel. Then, Amtrak will want to build sound barrier walls around the railroad tracks!

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 3:50 pm
by justalurker66
Ypsi wrote:Well it seems my request went through and the image was either removed by the website or the OP (less likely the OP takes it down). Either way link takes you to a this page doesn't exist message now. I didn't expect that to work, but I'm glad it did. Image still shows on Reddit so maybe it's just my LTE but I can't get the image to load.. maybe maybe not I won't lose any sleep over it.
I am not seeing it on either site ... it may be cached on your device.

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Sat Oct 06, 2018 7:49 pm
by Chip
justalurker66 wrote:
Ypsi wrote:Well it seems my request went through and the image was either removed by the website or the OP (less likely the OP takes it down). Either way link takes you to a this page doesn't exist message now. I didn't expect that to work, but I'm glad it did. Image still shows on Reddit so maybe it's just my LTE but I can't get the image to load.. maybe maybe not I won't lose any sleep over it.
I am not seeing it on either site ... it may be cached on your device.
I still see it on the reddit page and I never opened the original link

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:30 am
by chapmaja
NS3322 wrote:
chapmaja wrote:
NS3322 wrote:
Is "Formercoach1202" a member of this board?
That depends on if you agree or disagree with what Formercoach1202 posted.
Of course I agree!
Then yes, I am Formercoach1202

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 9:32 am
by chapmaja
NYCMan wrote:Just what Ann Arbor needs. They must have more money than brains. They can do this at the same time they build their new $85 Million Amtrak Depot. too. Better yet, why don't they just elevate all of the tracks? It might be cheaper!

And, cannot wait until their next study comes out that the vibrations from the trains are upsetting the nesting grounds of the endangered red-chested Pyranes squirrel. Then, Amtrak will want to build sound barrier walls around the railroad tracks!
They must have more money than brains. Pretty much sums Ann Arbor up in a sentence.

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:17 am
by Steve B
Unless you actually live in Ann Arbor, there's no point in getting so upset. It's interesting how Durand is a quiet zone yet people on this board don't trash them about it.

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 12:27 pm
by Chip
Steve B wrote:Unless you actually live in Ann Arbor, there's no point in getting so upset. It's interesting how Durand is a quiet zone yet people on this board don't trash them about it.
It's because Durant isn't the single most pretentious city in the state of Michigan.

Re: City of Ann Arbor considering Quiet Zones

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2018 1:39 pm
by dave989
Next they will put a quiet zone on the big house!