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Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:52 pm
by dalek ling
Today, CSTN moved ex TSBY switcher from Farwell to Cadillac, rumor had it’s being sold somewhere so I’ll keep everyone posted
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:02 pm
by Robertrains
dalek ling wrote: ↑Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:52 pm
Today, CSTN moved ex TSBY switcher from Farwell to Cadillac, rumor had it’s being sold somewhere so I’ll keep everyone posted
Well, shucks! It was the so called
"Bumper Post" at
Lear® Corporation, Farwell, MI! Did
GLC move it by rail? Any photos? Did it just roll along? Luckily I captured this last on August 23, 2019 on a good trip with
"Mazon!!!!" The business allowed us to walk back there and photograph! Glad I did and that it still is in
Tuscola & Saginaw Bay Railway® colors!!!!! This is the last of a kind and an original
TSBY engine from when they started in Michigan's Thumb in 1977! Now I saw this engine a few times since May 2000 Durand Railroad Days. The excursion picked it and a
Chesaning Central & Owosso® Alco® switcher to take back to Owosso after display! I also have seen
TSBY 1977 parked a few times at Owosso and lastly at Farwell! What are the plans for it? Hopefully it will be restored and/or used again! It won't be scrapped, right?
COOL!!!!
Take a look at this picture I (RLJ II) took of the old Tuscola and Saginaw Bay® Railway NW2 locomotive #1977 parked at the Lear® Corporation in Farwell, Michigan. August 2019. This engine is no longer used and is sitting here as a "Bumper Post" on Great Lakes Central® tracks (Canon® 35mm S.L.R.): 
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5230180
I (RLJ II) took this "Self Timer" of "Mazon" and I at the old TSBY NW2 #1977 at Lear® Corp., Farwell, Michigan. 8-23-2019 (Canon® 35mm S.L.R.): 
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=5376844
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:08 pm
by Erroneous Monk
Is it still operable?
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:17 pm
by Robertrains
It has not run in years!
TSBY NW2 #1977 has been stored on
TSBY/GLC and not used. But I hope it will be fixed to operate again. Hopefully the future is bright!!!! What will happen next? Does anyone here have pix/video of the move? Please
"keep everyone posted" as you mentioned
dalek ling!
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:16 pm
by Erroneous Monk
Robertrains wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:17 pm
It has not run in years!
TSBY NW2 #1977 has been stored on
TSBY/GLC and not used. But I hope it will be fixed to operate again. Hopefully the future is bright!!!! What will happen next? Does anyone here have pix/video of the move? Please
"keep everyone posted" as you mentioned
dalek ling!
I should have phrased it better, what is the reason it has not run in so long? Is it just because GLC has no need for an end cab or does it have some mechanical problems?
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:15 pm
by Robertrains
Erroneous Monk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:16 pm
Robertrains wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:17 pm
It has not run in years!
TSBY NW2 #1977 has been stored on
TSBY/GLC and not used. But I hope it will be fixed to operate again. Hopefully the future is bright!!!! What will happen next? Does anyone here have pix/video of the move? Please
"keep everyone posted" as you mentioned
dalek ling!
I should have phrased it better, what is the reason it has not run in so long? Is it just because GLC has no need for an end cab or does it have some mechanical problems?
I don't know exactly what is wrong
dalek ling. I read that it likely has not run since 2005
! TSBY/GLC has been storing it for years! They don't need this switcher. Too bad!
Now, here is a photo link showing
TSBY 1977 at Owosso in April 2007 explaining some:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/conrail6809/52275621557/
RailroadfanWiki explains about
1977 "Reportedly sold to US Steel in Lorain, Ohio as of 9/2024." WOW:
https://railroadfan.com/wiki/index.php/ ... es_Central
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:02 pm
by dalek ling
Robertrains wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 8:15 pm
Erroneous Monk wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 7:16 pm
Robertrains wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 6:17 pm
It has not run in years!
TSBY NW2 #1977 has been stored on
TSBY/GLC and not used. But I hope it will be fixed to operate again. Hopefully the future is bright!!!! What will happen next? Does anyone here have pix/video of the move? Please
"keep everyone posted" as you mentioned
dalek ling!
I should have phrased it better, what is the reason it has not run in so long? Is it just because GLC has no need for an end cab or does it have some mechanical problems?
I don't know exactly what is wrong
dalek ling. I read that it likely has not run since 2005
! TSBY/GLC has been storing it for years! They don't need this switcher. Too bad!
Now, here is a photo link showing
TSBY 1977 at Owosso in April 2007 explaining some:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/conrail6809/52275621557/
RailroadfanWiki explains about
1977 "Reportedly sold to US Steel in Lorain, Ohio as of 9/2024." WOW:
https://railroadfan.com/wiki/index.php/ ... es_Central
CSTN Wednesday pulled the train north and it’s still at the barn today, there’s photos, but I don’t know how to upload them here
As for operations, rumor is it’s being leased to Rhetek in Whittemore Lake, and the most far fetched one is that it’s going to Lorain Ohio
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:29 pm
by Reuben Kincaid
Someone said on another board that it was going to Webtec Inc. in Houston, Texas, for complete re-wire and a Dash 3 locker. The shop crew in Cadillac was getting it ready for inter-change. The conductor on the road job was attacked by an angry mob of hornets while coupling to the road power when it was moved for the first time from Lear in Farwell.
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:17 am
by AARR
A very real threat to railroad crews that we don't hear much about but I would think happens more than we know
Reuben Kincaid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:29 pm
The conductor on the road job was attacked by an angry mob of hornets while coupling to the road power when it was moved for the first time from Lear in Farwell.
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:44 am
by ATTM4150
AARR wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:17 am
A very real threat to railroad crews that we don't hear much about but I would think happens more than we know
Reuben Kincaid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:29 pm
The conductor on the road job was attacked by an angry mob of hornets while coupling to the road power when it was moved for the first time from Lear in Farwell.
It is indeed. Something I learned very quickly when I was conductor. They love to make nests in knuckles and the handbrake wheel housing. Many a time where I would release the handbrake and see a nest and a swarm come flying out.
Re: Ex TSBY 1977 on the move
Posted: Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:31 pm
by NS3322
That makes five rumored places 1977 is going to:
1. US Steel in Lorain, Ohio
2. Owosso, MI Yard Switcher
3. Wabtec in Houston, TX (very unlikely)
4. Planet Neptune
5. Seattle Space Needle
ATTM4150 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:44 am
AARR wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:17 am
A very real threat to railroad crews that we don't hear much about but I would think happens more than we know
Reuben Kincaid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 11:29 pm
The conductor on the road job was attacked by an angry mob of hornets while coupling to the road power when it was moved for the first time from Lear in Farwell.
It is indeed. Something I learned very quickly when I was conductor. They love to make nests in knuckles and the handbrake wheel housing. Many a time where I would release the handbrake and see a nest and a swarm come flying out.
Whatever you do, do not open old signal boxes on rail trails! I found out the hard way while biking the Falling Waters Trail near Spring Arbor many years ago...
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 1:07 pm
by Robertrains
dalek ling wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 9:02 pm
CSTN Wednesday pulled the train north and it’s still at the barn today, there’s photos, but I don’t know how to upload them here
As for operations, rumor is it’s being leased to Rhetek in Whittemore Lake, and the most far fetched one is that it’s going to Lorain Ohio
OK, where is
TSBY 1977 actually going?
Ohio, Texas or Michigan.
MAN!!!!
It would be nice if it stayed local!
S.R.I. should have gotten this switcher instead of the other one! Good it will be used, but sad it will lose its
TSBY colors!!!!
NS3322 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:31 pm
That makes five rumored places 1977 is going to:
1. US Steel in Lorain, Ohio
2. Owosso, MI Yard Switcher
3. Wabtec in Houston, TX (very unlikely)
4. Planet Neptune
5. Seattle Space Needle
ATTM4150 wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 10:44 am
AARR wrote: ↑Fri Sep 20, 2024 7:17 am
A very real threat to railroad crews that we don't hear much about but I would think happens more than we know
It is indeed. Something I learned very quickly when I was conductor. They love to make nests in knuckles and the handbrake wheel housing. Many a time where I would release the handbrake and see a nest and a swarm come flying out.
Whatever you do, do not open old signal boxes on rail trails! I found out the hard way while biking the Falling Waters Trail near Spring Arbor many years ago...
Enough with the rumors! I want actual facts!!!!
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Sat Sep 21, 2024 5:33 pm
by Manistique
As you all probably know, this locomotive was one of the two original TSBY locomotives, the other one being an ex-Rutland Alco RS-1 with a chopped nose that I think is at Coopersville & Marne Ry. This was when TSBY just ran the ex-PC trackage in the Thumb out of Vassar depot. It was originally painted yellow and black,like the RS-1, as those were the colors of the President's college (Purdue?). The NW2 I think was an ex-Union Pacific. It never got used too much after TSYB expanded to run the former Ann Arbor and Michigan Northern trackage though I have shots of it being rebuilt in the former AA backshop in Owosso in the early 1980's. Not many NW2's around any more, running or not.
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:14 pm
by GP30M4216
I’ve heard 1977 is getting a thorough mechanical assessment at Owosso shops as the desire is to make better use of the resources already on the railroad if feasible. As was said, NW2s are pretty rare these days and it would be neat to have one operating here if it makes sense to do so. Seems like the new general manager at GLC has some good ideas.
Did anyone catch any photos of 1977 on the move to Owosso? They could just keep the 1977 in TSBY colors and now they’ve solved their heritage unit plan, too!
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 3:28 pm
by Erroneous Monk
I wonder if they plan to use it as a Owosso yard switcher
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 4:11 pm
by dalek ling
GP30M4216 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2024 2:14 pm
Seems like the new general manager at GLC has some good ideas.
Ya sounds like the new GM has been a great thing for the railroad, can’t wait for what he does next
Re: Ex TSBY 1997 on the move
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2024 6:29 pm
by AARR