New North Yard, NYC

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chapmaja
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New North Yard, NYC

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I was looking at some stuff about the railroads of Toledo and noticed on the Trains map of the Toledo Terminal, it lists a New North Yard for the New York Central. this yard appears to have run from just east of Hallet north northeast to near where the NYC lines would have met. Did this yard ever actually get built? I see no sign of this yard being in place on the Google Images and sat views. This was likely to replaced the old North Yard which was located where the Jeep Plant currently sits near Ottaw Yard (AA).


Something else I am wondering is why would the GTW have held ownership in the Toledo terminal (prior to its purchase by the C&O in 1947). The GTW didn't gain direct access to Toledo until the early 1980's when they purchased the DT&I (access via trackage rights on the AA), and the D&TSL (which they held an interest in previously).

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Re: New North Yard, NYC

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The first stage of the yard was built, the West side of the yard was not, nor was the engine house and water and coaling. Hallet tower had many interchange railroad connections to handle, the west yard had as many planned for it.

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Re: New North Yard, NYC

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I'm resurrecting this old thread, as I, too, am looking for a little info about the MC North Yard and stumbled across this discussion during my search. I found an aerial photo of this yard's remains from circa 1957, by which time it appears to have been closed, although some rails look visible and there is some evidence of small buildings. I also discovered some legal discussions online regarding the various unions involved in yard operations planning strikes upon the NYC's announced intention to close the yard in question circa 1953. Most interestingly, at least to me, I found a barely-visible ground scar on the current google earth image that clearly matches the line into the yard from the north when compared with the old aerial photo and other maps and including a short culvert or causeway over the inlet/creek that runs through the area, although much of the yard's land space is now occupied by a landfill, a Menard's, and other small industrial buildings along Enterprise Drive. So, I guess what I'm asking is...are we saying that THIS apparently very large yard wasn't completed and had no engine servicing facilities? It seems to me the implications in the legal discussions are that the yard had been there since the early 30s at the latest. So, was there ANOTHER "New North Yard" planned somewhere in the general area that has also been obliterated by more recent building construction/land reuse, etc?

Link discussing aforementioned legal actions: https://www.anylaw.com/case/new-york-ce ... TomsSBfKnc (sometimes has a paywall, sometimes doesn't. Idk why).

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