PatC created a monster, 'cause nobody wants to see Don Simon no more they want AARR I'm chopped liver, well if you want AARR this is what I'll give ya, bad humor mixed with irrelevant info that'll make you roll your eyes quicker than a ~Z~ banhammer...
As much as I like the old 35's, newer power on the line will be neat to see. Going to have to start bringing my camera to work with me now so I won't miss anymore shots. Maybe I'll be the first to catch one of the new ones in TC (I'll be sure to push some snow in front of KC's car to keep him side-lined).
I checked my notes and I think I boo-booed. I think the units were originally delivered to PC and not MP.
PatC created a monster, 'cause nobody wants to see Don Simon no more they want AARR I'm chopped liver, well if you want AARR this is what I'll give ya, bad humor mixed with irrelevant info that'll make you roll your eyes quicker than a ~Z~ banhammer...
Jon i can see it already as well, remember how many problems they had with the GMTX Geeps? their coming from the same place more or less and they already had problems before they were sent here thats one reason they have been delayed.
GLC 392 wrote:Jon i can see it already as well, remember how many problems they had with the GMTX Geeps? their coming from the same place more or less and they already had problems before they were sent here thats one reason they have been delayed.
I never heard about any problems with the GATX units, guess I must be out of the loop. But my point is you can base your assumption on facts whereas James most likely is basing his on the fact that 1 of units suddenly got bad ordered enroute.
When they first arrived they spent more time in the shop then the road, for a good two months plus. Electrical problems were the main problem if i remember correctly.
Well, at this point it is hard to speculate about anything or jump to conclusions; even based on prior happenings. Just because the unit was bad ordered doesn't mean anything. While NRE does produce junk, I'm sure the unit was not online so that narrows down the number of things it could be tagged for. Maybe someone forgot to put the blue card back in the cab or something. And just because one has a problem, doesn't mean they are all going to fail...
Wow, I can already see that these might be a little bit more of a handful than GLC expects. Didn't even make it to its new digs yet!
Honestly James, where do you come up with these outlandish opinions?
Notice the word MIGHT Jon. I do not know anyone from NRE or the GLC personally. Like Tops said, we don't know. But, I find it funny it didn't even make it to Durand or Owosso yet without someone tagging it B/O.
They may not even be running. They may be dead/drained, so it may be something like blue card expired, bad hand brake or something like that. It could be a million things, and that being said, it's not like engines getting bad ordered is a strange occurance. Although usually, railroads just run their junk without bad ordering it. Most of our power on UP should be bad ordered but we still use it. It is strange though, that it just came from NRE and are already bad ordered. That's what is amusing to me. Probably a blooper on NRE's part...they probably forgot to put wheels underneath the trucks or something.
If they're originally PC as Don suspects they could be part of the 100 units EMD took back from Conrail in IIRC 1987 when their leases expired. They all went into the EMDX fleet but it wouldn't surprise me if UP bought a few over the years.
It is already known that at least the 399 is ex-PC built for PC, I would think the rest are, but have not gotten any more info on the units. But seing as 396 & 395 also have the UP tell tale goffy MU cable holder on them I would guess they are also ex-PC units by way of LLPX. Here is the thread on it already. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=18551&hilit=GLC+million&start=20