New Unit for MMRR
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New Unit for MMRR
KRR 3803 is acording to a post on Loco Notes, comming to the MMRR. Suposed to move BNSF-CSX Chicago-MMRR Paines
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From the number I guess its a GP38 or 38-2. Looking forward to learninbg its heritage.
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http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictur ... E%20OK.JPG There she is im guessing GP35M. Just like the 2052 on the SBS it looks like. Cool.
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Ok, a 35 rebuilt to 38 specs. Nice looking enginespenn central wrote:http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/pictur ... E%20OK.JPG There she is im guessing GP35M. Just like the 2052 on the SBS it looks like. Cool.
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Looks like its probably in Chicago by now. By Streator, IL 2 days ago with the KRR 3801 as well...
http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=2716513
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Sweet! A new engine for me to go and track down.
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Just in time for the upcoming harvest season? With the MAC expansion I would asume big 90 car grain trains.
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That's a pretty cool unit and the paint scheme is unique, too. I assume MMRR will not be needing to borrow HESR power anymore?
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These are GP38M's. Another unit, 3801, is heading for the MMRR in Muskegon, and might've even gone up on Z627 last night.
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Re: New Unit for MMRR
Tomato, Tomatoe, Potato, Potatoe. GP35M or GP38M may both be correct. They were originally GP35 carbodies, so GP35M (Modified) could be considered correct. They are apparrently rebuilt to GP38 standards, so GP38M could also be correct. If they have -2 or -3 electricals then that could be added as well. Once rebuilt, the designations for units can get a little fuzzy. There seems to be enough inconsistency in these designations by railroad rebuilders and independent rebuilders to provide lots of fodder for this kind of conversation.
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According to what I can find they are GP35M units:
KRR 3801 = S/N 29810, 2/1965, Built as MP 630 / MP 2008 / MP 2600
KRR 3803 = S/N 28785, 8/1964, Built as Texas & Pacific 613 (!) / MP 2513 / MP 2607
KRR 3801 = S/N 29810, 2/1965, Built as MP 630 / MP 2008 / MP 2600
KRR 3803 = S/N 28785, 8/1964, Built as Texas & Pacific 613 (!) / MP 2513 / MP 2607
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T&P? Wow, thats a suprise.
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I do not know all the legalities but even though it says T&P they always had MP reporting markings IIRCTrainWatcher wrote:T&P? Wow, thats a suprise.
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T&P was majority MP controlled starting in 1929 but was not merged into MP until 1976. These were delivered with MP buzzsaw logos but TP lettering in the buzzsaw. Later they were integrated more formally into MP's fleet. MMRR is getting both of these units.
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So did they originally have T&P reporting markings?ns8401 wrote:T&P was majority MP controlled starting in 1929 but was not merged into MP until 1976. MMRR is getting both of these units.
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Yes.AARR wrote:So did they originally have T&P reporting markings?ns8401 wrote:T&P was majority MP controlled starting in 1929 but was not merged into MP until 1976. MMRR is getting both of these units.
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IIRC the way the Texas laws were for many years was that a railroad that didn't originate in Texas couldn't build into Texas or something along those lines. That's why you had companies like Missouri Pacific with the International Great Northern (in Texas) and the Southern Pacific with the Texas & New Orleans (in Texas). T&P also fell into this fold after MP bought them. I'm not sure about T&P, but IGN and T&NO were technically seperate railroads but were operated as parts of the overall MoPAC and SP systems.
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Thats correct Jon, from what I was reading the government organized the railroads (giving them land and such) they were independent companies but once they were majority controlled by another railroad they were operated as a part of the larger system albeit with slightly different paint and road name...
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KRR 3801, KRR 3803 on Q326-16 through St. Joseph around midnight on 9/17/11. Look for it in GR on Saturday morning
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Do I understand correctly, this unit is going to Muskegon? Is it as a replacement or an addation to whats already there.