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[conrailman75]

Here's the schedule of my trains at Dunkirk, OH just so you'd know:

Amtrak 8 1:27am
NS 422 1:37am
Amtrak 4 1:57am
NS 41T 2:50am
UCH-486 3:11am
NS 382 3:21am
NS 30K 6:09am
Amtrak 1 6:19am
FWPI-A 7:11am
NS 40T 7:12am
TOPI 7:27am
PIJA 7:57am
CJPI 9:56am
CSX Q113 10:06am
TOIN 10:27am
Amtrak 7 10:38am
CSX Q114 10:46am
FWCP-44 10:56am
UCH-481 11:10am
Amtrak 3 12:30pm
CSX Q356 12:34pm
FWCR-484 12:41pm
JAPI 1:11pm
INTO 1:28pm
TV8 1:56pm
PIFW-A 1:57pm
GRPI 2:06pm
CHPI 2:16pm
NS 421 2:35pm
FWPI-B 2:41pm
CSX Q357 2:43pm
PIIN 2:53pm
NS 381 3:43pm
TOGR 3:57pm
FWPC-43 4:15pm
IHPI 4:41pm
CRFW-482 4:58pm
GRTO 5:28pm
PIFW-B 6:57pm
INPI 6:58pm
PICH 7:57pm
NS 31E 8:13pm
PIIH 8:28pm
Amtrak 2 9:24pm
TV7 9:50pm
PIGR 9:57pm
PICJ 11:57pm

[heartlandguy]

Here's the schedule of my trains at Dunkirk, OH just so you'd know:

Amtrak 8 1:27am
NS 422 1:37am
Amtrak 4 1:57am
NS 41T 2:50am
UCH-486 3:11am
NS 382 3:21am
NS 30K 6:09am
Amtrak 1 6:19am
FWPI-A 7:11am
NS 40T 7:12am
TOPI 7:27am
PIJA 7:57am
CJPI 9:56am
CSX Q113 10:06am
TOIN 10:27am
Amtrak 7 10:38am
CSX Q114 10:46am
FWCP-44 10:56am
UCH-481 11:10am
Amtrak 3 12:30pm
CSX Q356 12:34pm
FWCR-484 12:41pm
JAPI 1:11pm
INTO 1:28pm
TV8 1:56pm
PIFW-A 1:57pm
GRPI 2:06pm
CHPI 2:16pm
NS 421 2:35pm
FWPI-B 2:41pm
CSX Q357 2:43pm
PIIN 2:53pm
NS 381 3:43pm
TOGR 3:57pm
FWPC-43 4:15pm
IHPI 4:41pm
CRFW-482 4:58pm
GRTO 5:28pm
PIFW-B 6:57pm
INPI 6:58pm
PICH 7:57pm
NS 31E 8:13pm
PIIH 8:28pm
Amtrak 2 9:24pm
TV7 9:50pm
PIGR 9:57pm
PICJ 11:57pm

Wow...that quite an impressive line up, there. Wish the real Ft Wayne Line was like this!

[DT&I]

We only had one southbound coal and 19 TSCR/AW piggyback trains.

[DT&I]

Ethanol trains over ET are a hit and profits are coming in hot. These trains are very efficient becuase they have power on both ends to reduce time going to and from the ethanol plant(Plus its partially becuase the spur is facing the wrong way lol).

[DT&I]

TSCR has begun buying the properties that lay on the future site of the Lake Shore Sub from Michigan City, IN to East Chicago, IL where it will connect with the Hobart Sub. Also TSCR has not abandoned its project to acquire the former GTW mainline from Port Huron, MI to Toronto, ONT. The line was abandoned by GTW in the 1980's I believe.

[Saturnalia]

TSCR has begun buying the properties that lay on the future site of the Lake Shore Sub from Michigan City, IN to East Chicago, IL where it will connect with the Hobart Sub. Also TSCR has not abandoned its project to acquire the former GTW mainline from Port Huron, MI to Toronto, ONT. The line was abandoned by GTW in the 1980's I believe.

Now I've forgotten, are we keeping a connection in at Annoyance, or are we just putting in new diamonds?

[DT&I]

TSCR has begun buying the properties that lay on the future site of the Lake Shore Sub from Michigan City, IN to East Chicago, IL where it will connect with the Hobart Sub. Also TSCR has not abandoned its project to acquire the former GTW mainline from Port Huron, MI to Toronto, ONT. The line was abandoned by GTW in the 1980's I believe.

Now I've forgotten, are we keeping a connection in at Annoyance, or are we just putting in new diamonds?

Ok this is what NS has asked me to do, we are keeping the connection and installing diamonds becuase starting in 2017 NS wants trackage rights over MQT to Annoyance and TSCR to Detroit due to WCSR having the former Wabash Line from Fort Wayne to Detroit. CP also wants rights over TSCR to Annoyance and then over MQT to Porter so they can pretty much do what is happening now only over a different line.

[Saturnalia]

TSCR has begun buying the properties that lay on the future site of the Lake Shore Sub from Michigan City, IN to East Chicago, IL where it will connect with the Hobart Sub. Also TSCR has not abandoned its project to acquire the former GTW mainline from Port Huron, MI to Toronto, ONT. The line was abandoned by GTW in the 1980's I believe.

Now I've forgotten, are we keeping a connection in at Annoyance, or are we just putting in new diamonds?

Ok this is what NS has asked me to do, we are keeping the connection and installing diamonds becuase starting in 2017 NS wants trackage rights over MQT to Annoyance and TSCR to Detroit due to WCSR having the former Wabash Line from Fort Wayne to Detroit. CP also wants rights over TSCR to Annoyance and then over MQT to Porter so they can pretty much do what is happening now only over a different line.

Don't make me laugh....CP is staying on MQT...the whole way.

[DT&I]

Ok but it will have to go over NS at Porter, plus why would CP go over MQT the whole way when its completely out of the way? Why send CP trains via GR then South outta Detroit and straigh across Michigan? Its just takes longer.

[Saturnalia]

Ok but it will have to go over NS at Porter, plus why would CP go over MQT the whole way when its completely out of the way? Why send CP trains via GR then South outta Detroit and straigh across Michigan? Its just takes longer.

If you saw the contract, you'd see why. Anything beyond that, and I'd have to [insert bad thing here] to you.

But in all seriousness, CP has a sweet deal.

[DT&I]

Id like to know why?

[Saturnalia]

Id like to know why?

Sorry, is it confidential....just know CP is getting a service they value at a bargain price.

[DT&I]

Id like to know why?

Sorry, is it confidential....just know CP is getting a service they value at a bargain price.

Ok well after your contract expires with us in 2016 have fun paying more for trackage rights over CSX to Toledo and they can handle your traffic, and your intermodal trains to Saginaw will not get interchanged with you and they will go over the TSCR. LOL THIS IS CAPITALISM AT ITS BEST

[Saturnalia]

Id like to know why?

Sorry, is it confidential....just know CP is getting a service they value at a bargain price.

Ok well after your contract expires with us in 2016 have fun paying more for trackage rights over CSX to Toledo and they can handle your traffic, and your intermodal trains to Saginaw will not get interchanged with you and they will go over the TSCR. LOL THIS IS CAPITALISM AT ITS BEST

You don't want our traffic? Okay, less money for you.....

The Saginaw trains go to our yard, not yours, so they'll have to stay with us

MQT Owns track right up to the Ohio Border south from Plymouth. That's where we were going to "move" the interchange (I always thought that is where it was in the first place, but I was wrong).

MQT currently has trackage rights over the TSCR from the Michigan Border to Walbridge/Stanley. Not very far, so not very expensive.

[DT&I]

I know but we have tracks going northwest out of Detroit to and south to Toledo so we don't need your traffic it only makes up a small fraction, very small, of our profits plus we could keep the intermodal trains on our track to Saginaw and then give them to you. Plus to get to any other railroad in Toledo you need the TBR.

[Saturnalia]

I know but we have tracks going northwest out of Detroit to and south to Toledo so we don't need your traffic it only makes up a small fraction, very small, of our profits plus we could keep the intermodal trains on our track to Saginaw and then give them to you. Plus to get to any other railroad in Toledo you need the TBR.

I'm not worried about the TBR. The STB will make sure I get connections at a reasonable price. NS is forced to give CSX trackage rights from Porter to Pine for the same reason.

[conrailman75]

When you two start going at each other like this its hilarious!

[heartlandguy]

When you two start going at each other like this its hilarious!

The stench of rivalry looms...

[DT&I]

Or the STB could say that you use CSX south from Detroit to Toledo because the still have the C&O yard, its still a reasonable price but its more.

[Saturnalia]

When you two start going at each other like this its hilarious!

The stench of rivalry looms...

Don't make us start charging for laughs!