MMRR 24

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MMRR 24

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Ok, I am aware this has already been a topic that went up in flames. However, I would like to know if anyone has info on the 24. I hear it has been making test runs and I am curious what was the nature of the work done. Also what work still needs done to get the locomotive back into full revenue service. Lastly, I am also curious what the power arrangement will be once the 24 comes back.

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It recieved points, plugs, cap and rotor and new gonkulator filter system. The dio-chromatic muffler bearings were renewed as was the synchronis inverter. Some of the bolts were re-gnurled too. While the mechanics were doing that they kept saying GNURLY DUDE.
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Doktor No wrote:It recieved points, plugs, cap and rotor and new gonkulator filter system. The dio-chromatic muffler bearings were renewed as was the synchronis inverter. Some of the bolts were re-gnurled too. While the mechanics were doing that they kept saying GNURLY DUDE.
:mrgreen:
How would you like a job as my service manager? That was one of the best explanations I've heard in a long time.

By the way, what are points, cap and rotor. :wink:

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EWRice wrote:
Doktor No wrote:It recieved points, plugs, cap and rotor and new gonkulator filter system. The dio-chromatic muffler bearings were renewed as was the synchronis inverter. Some of the bolts were re-gnurled too. While the mechanics were doing that they kept saying GNURLY DUDE.
:mrgreen:
How would you like a job as my service manager? That was one of the best explanations I've heard in a long time.

By the way, what are points, cap and rotor. :wink:
And here I am about to google "gonkulator filter" thinking I've never heard of such... then I start thinking "where the heck is a distributor on a locomotive, I've never heard of that"...

Kinda slow today folks. Good one!

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Re: MMRR 24

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If you look at the fuel system in older (50's, 40's) cars and tractors and such you see the clear glass bowl in the fuel line. Thats a gonkulator..or what we called it. Hogans Hero's always referred to one too. You could see water or impurities in the fuel line...the water, hopefully, would settle out there and you could drain it off.
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IIRC it had a blown air compressor and Roots blower problems. Rumor is 24 will stay while 3885 will be swapped out for another unit.
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but i think the one on Hogan's Hero's was a modified rabbit trap Carter built...yea....i watched way to much tv as a kid....and adult.

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I think it would be cool if they donated the #24 to the Coopersville and Marne.

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Doktor No wrote:It recieved points, plugs, cap and rotor and new gonkulator filter system. The dio-chromatic muffler bearings were renewed as was the synchronis inverter. Some of the bolts were re-gnurled too. While the mechanics were doing that they kept saying GNURLY DUDE.
It's now waiting a replacement Turbo-Encabulator. https://youtu.be/2fjcJp_Nwvk

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NS3322 wrote:I think it would be cool if they donated the #24 to the Coopersville and Marne.
That will never happen, but if it did 24 would be assigned to the deadline like everything else that USED to run when it came there.
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And what's on the deadline that used run that doesn't or isn't able to run with a little tlc? The prime mover on the alco will run but it's on shop trucks, the NW had water leak issues in the block when it came so was not operable. The first 50 tonner (the 2 axle) was dead on arrival and Neal Puetz got it operable and was sold to Gordie Morris at the MSO. The Whitcom was doa as were both steam engines.

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Raildudes dad wrote:And what's on the deadline that used run that doesn't or isn't able to run with a little tlc? The prime mover on the alco will run but it's on shop trucks, the NW had water leak issues in the block when it came so was not operable. The first 50 tonner (the 2 axle) was dead on arrival and Neal Puetz got it operable and was sold to Gordie Morris at the MSO. The Whitcom was doa as were both steam engines.
Well for one the ALCO apparently has a cracked block, the NW2 is stripped and both steam locomotives need more then some TLC.
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MQT1223 wrote:
Raildudes dad wrote:And what's on the deadline that used run that doesn't or isn't able to run with a little tlc? The prime mover on the alco will run but it's on shop trucks, the NW had water leak issues in the block when it came so was not operable. The first 50 tonner (the 2 axle) was dead on arrival and Neal Puetz got it operable and was sold to Gordie Morris at the MSO. The Whitcom was doa as were both steam engines.
Well for one the ALCO apparently has a cracked block, the NW2 is stripped and both steam locomotives need more then some TLC.
everything else that USED to run when it came there.
implies they get running equipment and then neglect them until they don't run.
The Alco doesn't have cracked block - it has a poorly repaired crankshaft. I've seen the metal fragments from the bad bearing on the oil sump screen and was involved with firing it up one day and listen to the old girl idle - what a sweet sound 8) .
The 2 steamers are in the condition they were when they arrived except the jacking is removed from the 1395 and the asbestos has been removed.
Your comment might be slightly applicable to the NW. It was "operable" supposedly when it came from Muskegon. But it leaked water like a sieve. The power assemblies were pulled and found to have been "refurbished" by a volunteer group with the wrong gasketing material. It was going to take a major refurbishing to get the prime mover in good shape. It's been checked by several respected RR machinist's who have advised it will cost more to refurbish than as running used loco so it's turned into a parts source.

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My understanding is that other than the blower and fried compressor, the 24 is in excellent condition. As far as the C&M getting hold of it, per a phone conversation that I had with a major decision maker in that area, I thought there would be a chance. But it was shortly after that they decided to fix her up.

1223's comment about the C&M's maintenance of their equipment is a real slap in the face to a VERY small, but dedicated, group of VOLUNTEERS, working with an extremely limited budget. Some of these people are on this board, and there are a few others on here who have spent enough time around there to understand the situation.

It never ceases to amaze me the false info that flies around about equipment. Even within a company over time.

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EWRice wrote:1223's comment about the C&M's maintenance of their equipment is a real slap in the face to a VERY small, but dedicated, group of VOLUNTEERS, working with an extremely limited budget. Some of these people are on this board, and there are a few others on here who have spent enough time around there to understand the situation.
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For anyone who likes to berate small museums about the state of their equipment I highly suggest you become a member and come on down to lend a hand in restoring the equipment to operation or at least to slap some paint on. You will quickly find out just what kind of work that entails and the costs involved. For instance just to COTS a historic locomotive is over $2000 and that does not include the labor to pull the parts ship them to the vendor or install them once they return.
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This is off-topic but since C&M handle freight has their designation changed?
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AARR wrote:This is off-topic but since C&M handle freight has their designation changed?
Yes, they are a common carrier.
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Does that affect the track maintenance standard? Insurance requirements?
Saturnalia wrote:
AARR wrote:This is off-topic but since C&M handle freight has their designation changed?
Yes, they are a common carrier.
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Come on man (Don). You knew the answer to your question.
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