GDLK Operations
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I don't think this would have anything to do with it, but does anyone know how the long WATCO's lease of the Grand Elk is for? I know they leased the line and the takeover date was March 8th, 2009, so the 15 year anniversary of the takeover of the lines just happened. I wonder if this could be related to the sign. I know NSSD70Ace was trying to be funny, but I wonder if there isn't something going on behind the scenes that might impact the name of the yard.
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I can find that kind of humor on Facebook, and it added nothing to the topic.
I believe NS leased the Jackson & Lansing line to ADBF for 20 years with an option to purchase when the lease expires (2030).chapmaja wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:02 pmI don't think this would have anything to do with it, but does anyone know how the long WATCO's lease of the Grand Elk is for? I know they leased the line and the takeover date was March 8th, 2009, so the 15 year anniversary of the takeover of the lines just happened. I wonder if this could be related to the sign. I know NSSD70Ace was trying to be funny, but I wonder if there isn't something going on behind the scenes that might impact the name of the yard.
I wonder if GDLK has a similar agreement?
WMUK did a story in 2016 on Mr. Gearhart:
https://www.wmuk.org/wmuk-news/2016-04- ... -curiosity
Which was also apparently discussed on this very site:
https://railroadfan.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=33349
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This isn’t that serious of a board man
I believe it was 99 years but I can no longer find anything to confirm that online. Just old articles about the proposed takeover, MQT’s objection, and a bunch of foamers saying the company would fold within a few years because there was no business on the line to sustain it.NS3322 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:09 pmI believe NS leased the Jackson & Lansing line to ADBF for 20 years with an option to purchase when the lease expires (2030).chapmaja wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:02 pmI don't think this would have anything to do with it, but does anyone know how the long WATCO's lease of the Grand Elk is for? I know they leased the line and the takeover date was March 8th, 2009, so the 15 year anniversary of the takeover of the lines just happened. I wonder if this could be related to the sign. I know NSSD70Ace was trying to be funny, but I wonder if there isn't something going on behind the scenes that might impact the name of the yard.
I wonder if GDLK has a similar agreement?
WMUK did a story in 2016 on Mr. Gearhart:
https://www.wmuk.org/wmuk-news/2016-04- ... -curiosity
Which was also apparently discussed on this very site:
https://railroadfan.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=33349
Oh the irony…..
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Who was Botsford? It looks like GDLK is reverting to the older historic name for the site.
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You may find some of the answers that you are looking for in this thread.justalurker66 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:52 pmWho was Botsford? It looks like GDLK is reverting to the older historic name for the site.
https://railroadfan.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=33349
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Botsford was a Boston banker who helped finance the Michigan Central.
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Another update, I think Kalamazoo Metal Recyclers has started scrapping railcars on their transload spur near downtown.
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the 99 year lease is what I remember reading somewhere also. however I don't remember where I read that at, so I could be wrong.NSSD70ACe wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:34 pmThis isn’t that serious of a board man
I believe it was 99 years but I can no longer find anything to confirm that online. Just old articles about the proposed takeover, MQT’s objection, and a bunch of foamers saying the company would fold within a few years because there was no business on the line to sustain it.NS3322 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 8:09 pmI believe NS leased the Jackson & Lansing line to ADBF for 20 years with an option to purchase when the lease expires (2030).chapmaja wrote: ↑Wed Mar 27, 2024 6:02 pmI don't think this would have anything to do with it, but does anyone know how the long WATCO's lease of the Grand Elk is for? I know they leased the line and the takeover date was March 8th, 2009, so the 15 year anniversary of the takeover of the lines just happened. I wonder if this could be related to the sign. I know NSSD70Ace was trying to be funny, but I wonder if there isn't something going on behind the scenes that might impact the name of the yard.
I wonder if GDLK has a similar agreement?
WMUK did a story in 2016 on Mr. Gearhart:
https://www.wmuk.org/wmuk-news/2016-04- ... -curiosity
Which was also apparently discussed on this very site:
https://railroadfan.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=33349
Oh the irony…..
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Nope. The other thread and article confirm that the yard was originally named Botsford over 100 years ago, but no answer as to who Botsford was.GRHC wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 6:16 pmYou may find some of the answers that you are looking for in this thread.justalurker66 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 5:52 pmWho was Botsford? It looks like GDLK is reverting to the older historic name for the site.
https://railroadfan.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=33349
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According to PatAzo Botsford was a Boston banker who helped finance the Michigan Central.
Page 84 Sixth post down from the top on this thread.
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Page 84 Sixth post down from the top on this thread.
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That's too bad. Was most of that scrap headed for Chicago?1TrackMind wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2024 9:25 pmJust one and its been there for a few months now. They haven't done any rail business in probably a year.
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I apologize if this post should have been its own thread. Z, please move this post if it does not belong here.
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The 4910 was formerly at the Erickson Power plant of the Lansing Board of Water & Light. I believe it is ex GTW.
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Correct, ex-GTW 4910. They moved the tubes down from the top to the side of the hood so it would fit in the coal dumper shed IIRC.
Dan Cluley wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:40 amThe 4910 was formerly at the Erickson Power plant of the Lansing Board of Water & Light. I believe it is ex GTW.
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Thank you both very much. Do guys know if they are just storing it there or is it going to be put to work?AARR wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 7:17 amCorrect, ex-GTW 4910. They moved the tubes down from the top to the side of the hood so it would fit in the coal dumper shed IIRC.Dan Cluley wrote: ↑Sun Apr 07, 2024 12:40 amThe 4910 was formerly at the Erickson Power plant of the Lansing Board of Water & Light. I believe it is ex GTW.
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The stone yard in Kalamazoo purchased that GP9.
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RBEX is also the reporting marks for the stone cars used to transport the stone. That would indicate that the "new" engine is also owned by the same company, RBEX, Balkema Excavating.
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And also the caboose from the LBWL Eckert Power Station.
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