FEMA Prison Railcars

[esprrfan]

Just as some more info back in the 90's while in the USAF at Nellis in Las Vegas I took a "civilian inmate supervisors course". See theres a prison camp ON BASE and the inmates were convicted in court, they weren't in for "re education". But anyhow they did things like mow grass, clean buildings like taking out trash, mopping floors. IIRC out regs for that Army publications.

You can even still find a Army maual for carrying out the death sentence.

Most of them were actually pretty decent people that just wasn't thinking "right" at a point in their lives, it was pretty interesting to talk a lil with them. I even asked why no one ever really took the chance to just take off. One guy told me it was because if one did his whole group then was locked down so they prevented it themselves. Like he said being out mowing grass or taking out trash, just being around non inmates was better than 23 hours locked up so they didn't want no one to wreck what they had.

[hobojim]

Very informative espeerrfan.

[mikerm19]

hmm... Interesting. I will ask my father about that and see what he knows (he just retired from USAF)...

[esprrfan]

up date to the ol prison camp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Pr ... mp,_Nellis

[PAT.C]

Re: FEMA Prison Railcars

Postby esprrfan on Mon Jan 19, 2009 3:26 pm
Hey I got a question, If I'm doing a shove move with the "prison cars" do I need to be at the leading end or can I just have a detainee protect the move? :

SHOULDN'T POSTS ABOUT PRISONERS SHOVING FROM THE REAR BE MOVED TO THE P/R/E AREA ?

[GreatLakesRailfan]

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but the day is coming when if you're not for our government, you'll be against it and our government will do everything it can to either force you to fall in line or remove you from the "free world".

That day is already here. "Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists"! George W. Bush 2001

And since when does anyone take him seriously?

I was thinking more of a unified government/mass media approach. Right now, the mass media and the government seem to be at odds with each other. Things may change after tomorrow though...

[mikerm19]

Maxwell, Nellis, and Eggland AFB's all had federal prisons on the land. As you know, Nellis's closed, and so did Eggland's.

FYI, Levenworth also has a maximum DOD prison.

I dunno, it still sounds like a bunch of nothing but conspiracy. We will see I guess.

[hoborich]

I was thinking more of a unified government/mass media approach. Right now, the mass media and the government seem to be at odds with each other. Things may change after tomorrow though...

I'll be honest with you. I just don't know what to believe, or who to trust. But it is safe to say, this isn't the america I grew up in.

[GreatLakesRailfan]

It's hard to pinpoint exactly how accurate the conspiracy theories are. No reasonable person can deny that the conspiracy theories contain at least one or two shards of truth. But a lot of the conspiracy theories seem to be way over dramatized, to the point of being unbelievable.

I feel most of the conspiracy theorists are looking for something where nothing really exists, but at the same time, there do seem to be more coincidences than would occur by random chance.

[hobojim]

It is easy to pooh pooh the conspiracy theorists but if you have ever been involved in a government coverup of the truth, then you know how far the government will go the hide the truth, and that does include eliminating people who are seen as threats.
I usually take conspiracies with a grain of salt, but I find myself pondering them at times.

[Y@]

Haha, I know I'm only 14, but this is a load of crap! LMAO. When I read this I thought you guys were joking!

[hobojim]

Haha, I know I'm only 14, but this is a load of crap! LMAO. When I read this I thought you guys were joking!

Glad to see you are not a gullible lemming, y@, skepticism is a good attribute, but always balance it with logic and good sense. Sometimes the truth is so strange it seems to be fiction, especially in issues concerning the government.

[Gov. Crappo]

sigh.......things could be said but ya'll have said most of it...the only thing different between a "conspiricy therory" and fact is....the therory hasnt happened yet.....

im not a big movie watcher...dont do TV either much....i read...non-fiction....i watch the news listen to rush and scan the net......ive never been involved with a "gov't cover-up" but i lived thru watergate...iran-contra...whitewater....haliburton...the shame of an election in '00...the gall of someone buying the Presidency in '08......and to even think of shruggin off "conspiricy therories" opens yourself up to bad things IMHO...i dont bury my head in sand....im not diggin bomb shelters and making tinfiol helmets...but..BUT as a father of 2 small childeren i take all i hear and see with some sense of realism....Y2K was a good example...did i believe it could happen?...not realy....did i take precations?...of course...your an idiot if you dont....some things yes are obviously stupid...RFID chips in your tires so "they" can follow you...the technology is there but come on...tires?..but i do look and wonder about the magnetic strip on my drivers licence...just what info is there?....the gubment has done enough anti-Constitutional things openly in the last 25 years to realy make me wonder whats been done behind closed doors and how deep the hole goes

FEMA camps?...wouldnt suprise me
black helecopters in the night?....well ive never seen a live dinosuar but i supposed to belive they exsisted (nothing in the Bible about it )
some kind of new world order trying to rule the world?...thats for each person to believe or dis-believe...and act accordingly

[esprrfan]

Can't help but think somewhere in Indiana there's 2 guys that I helped belive this. I was eating at Bennigans in Elkhart and when the waitress gave me a RR discount they overheard. The one asked me what the big yellow jail cars were doing in town, I figured he meant the racks so I played along. I told him that the goverment was staging them there incase they needed the quickly in Chicago if Obama lost. When he asked were do the people go on them I acted like I was telling him some top secret info even leaning towards them. I said it depends of what they did some are taken to a harbor where the tracks lead into the water and the cars are backed in and ofcourse they sink so,,, Others I said go to old auto factories where the people are taken out under the cover of night and lead inside, here's where I think got "busted" when one asked "how come I never see anyone released" I quickly replied " Ever see a cow get back on the truck at a processing plant?" Then as I was getting up to leave I said think of "Soylent Green" as I finished with "I was NEVER here."

[hobojim]

LMFAO, ESPRR, My ex wife's brother in law would have believed you. To this day he warns everyone going to Vegas to be very caredful or they will wake up in a bathtub of ice with a note to call the EMT's and they will be missing a kidney.

[hoborich]

As usual, the details are fuzzy. But Haliburton did receive a contract for 385 million to build the camps and they are completed and ready for occupancy. It was on their own website. The governments explanation that they are for mass roundups of illegal immigrants doesn't hold water, as the government wants them here. The sentence in the press release that states, "or for rapid development of other programs" should give anyone pause. What "other programs" might they have in mind? The governments policy on immigrants is, the cubans can stay, if they make it to american soil. The haitians go back regardless, and the mexicans may or may not stay, depending on if they want to pluck chickens for Tyson Foods, or learn to become gardeners and nannies for the politicians in Washington.

[GreatLakesRailfan]

As usual, the details are fuzzy. But Haliburton did receive a contract for 385 million to build the camps and they are completed and ready for occupancy. It was on their own website. The governments explanation that they are for mass roundups of illegal immigrants doesn't hold water, as the government wants them here.

The government doesn't know WHAT it wants. That's the reason the rest of the world hates us so much- because our government is always changing its mind. There is very little consistency in our foreign policy. Just look at all of the situations "we" have flubbed up over the last 50-60 years. Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, etc, etc. We start out on one side, then switch sides halfway through when we get a new president (who "opposes the war") and a new administration in charge of our government. It's the inconsistency that shows a lot of countries that they cannot trust us because we flip-flop so much.

Who knows what those camps will eventually be used for. Probably nothing good. But the eventual use of the camps probably won't be what they were initially intended for, mostly because the people who initially authorized building those camps won't be in charge of things when they get used. It's all part of the inconsistency built into our government.

[hobojim]

At the risk of being accused of being politically incorrect I will state the following. Everyone who dares to opine on diversity lauds the strengths of diversity. No one dares to touch on the weaknesses as that would the wrong side of the issue. I think our flip flopping as a nation on many issues every time we change administrations shows the inherent weakness of diversity. A diverse society has many different points of view and the viewpoint of the ruling government will be the one expressed at any given time. It stands to reason then that our official national position will change with every political change of course.

[hoborich]

You're pretty much correct. But there was no change of administrations when we reversed course at the Bay of Pigs. Or when old man Bush told the Kurds to rise up against Saddam, and we would help them. Then he looked the other way while Saddam gassed them, with gas he got from us, which he was supposed to use against Iran.
And the most recent back stabbing occured in Iraq,when many Iraqis worked for the americans as interpreters, and their lives are now in danger, but the US won't let them come here to live. And they have now been kicked out on the street in Iraq. The US has a long history of using people and throwing them away, when they are no longer useful.

[MDH]

Can't help but think somewhere in Indiana there's 2 guys that I helped belive this. I was eating at Bennigans in Elkhart and when the waitress gave me a RR discount they overheard. The one asked me what the big yellow jail cars were doing in town, I figured he meant the racks so I played along. I told him that the goverment was staging them there incase they needed the quickly in Chicago if Obama lost. When he asked were do the people go on them I acted like I was telling him some top secret info even leaning towards them. I said it depends of what they did some are taken to a harbor where the tracks lead into the water and the cars are backed in and ofcourse they sink so,,, Others I said go to old auto factories where the people are taken out under the cover of night and lead inside, here's where I think got "busted" when one asked "how come I never see anyone released" I quickly replied " Ever see a cow get back on the truck at a processing plant?" Then as I was getting up to leave I said think of "Soylent Green" as I finished with "I was NEVER here."

That's absolutely hilarious! Makes me want to take some video of a rack train and dub over some "cries of the imprisoned" and put it up on Youtube saying "now I can risk releasing this since Obama's shutting down Gitmo"...